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So at the moment - its not... and the bikes you've been selling aren't either. If you manage to make this bike road legal, then thats great. But just so you're clear in the eyes of the law you'll have turned it from an MX bike, into a road legal enduro bike. You've missed my point totally...

so of all the points I made about you not understanding the law and selling and testing illegal prototypes in the public access forest, thats the one point you've replied to?? nice. FYI, we deal with 300+ retailers in the UK, and we've sold 2000 eBikes to them in the past 4 months. Lots of...

No one is mis-quoting you!!! What you're saying is your bike isn't road legal... you've just said that. You are comparing your bike to "ROAD LEGAL ENDURO BIKES" you do realise that yours is silent, and NOT road legal. Hence the big difference. Your's is not only not legal for use, where you...

This really doesn't sound like something that a "very conscientious person, who respects laws and people around them" should be riding around public woodland, where horse riders and families could be out for a country walk and not be expecting a silent "motorbike" to appear at any moment. But...

blimey I nip out for a couple of hours and come back to this :) sorry if I seem to have wound you up, it wasn't my intention. I used your post as an example to defend a point I made earlier in this thread about a lack of understanding about what is and isn't actually legal from a high % of the...

Thanks for the extra detail Dave... personally like Flecc, I am also interested in the details, as I'm really trying to work out a way we can sell these sPedelecs without putting our dealers and end customers at risk. I'll have a look into what Stromer are doing and report back, because...

From my memory, that forest is privately owned but has public access doesn't it? In which case im afraid by riding your bike there you are breaking the law.

Ok, I'm always happy to be proved wrong and I'd love to be able to sell our sPedelecs in the UK. So please can you all help me with two points 1) where are you actually riding your bike stalkingcat? 2) how are stromer registering their bikes? Everything we've checked shows that do this you...

you've said yourself you're confused about the law, and this post in this thread, shows you don't understand it.

ok ok... Your use of the phrases on and off road needs some clarification then. When you say you use your bike offroad, where are you riding it? I think we might need to go into a bit more detail so you can understand why I've used your post as an example of the lack of understanding that...

What makes you think its holding back the market?? I can assure you its not.

The trade (motorbike and cycle) is in general agreement that an assist of 25kph (15.5mph) is perfectly adequate for pedelecs. Any faster and its not considered leisure cycling, its considered a motorbike, hence the need for much tighter legislation, insurance / tax etc. The point of buying an...

all the bikes are 2015 ones... its just for some reason the picture hasn't updated. Thanks for the spot. I'll go and fire someone now ;)

More and more brands of bicycle now make eBikes, and this is only going to grow, so rather than have a small voice, BEBA has been closed and there is going to be a eBike voice within the http://bicycleassociation.org.uk/

ah, the internet in a "not being up to date" shocker. BEBA closed its doors last year.

BEBA doesn't exist anymore....

Oh, and should probably add the dealer who is currently causing all his fuss isn't even a ktm dealer. It's the network of haibike dealers who are upset.

2 points. We can sell sPedelecs we make a number. We have chosen not to allow our UK dealers to sell them unless the customer can prove they have access to private land to use them. This is the sensible and morally right decision for my business I believe. And I'm afraid statements like...

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Haha, trying to keep things balanced on this forum with regard to an understanding of the law is im afraid something we will never apologise for The constant misuse of the "off-road" terminology just shows that educationis needed for many on here. However hand on heart, we have nothing to do...