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  1. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit,actually the UK has come out rather well.

    It is a friendly discussion, but you have to realise your vote effected 60 million people in the UK, plus the millions of UK citizens currently living in the EU who are currently super worried about their position and their health care. So I'm sorry if you take it personally, that people like...
  2. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit,actually the UK has come out rather well.

    lol and there we have it... the defense of someone who has no defense. You've given a number of reasons, all now proven to be simply incorrect. So you've resorted to the " you lost, we won" classic. and you wonder why the people in power are trying to work out a way to get around this vote...
  3. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Lol, I'm sure Liverpool will be pleased they are now called Toy Town. Also, as I've said before you can make numbers show many things In this case I've shown that a petition to keep Trump out - lets call that an opinion poll. Has over 1.2 million votes. The similar petition to invite trump...
  4. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit,actually the UK has come out rather well.

    YES, BECAUSE IT WAS SAID THAT WE'D TRIGGER A50 IMMEDIATELY we didn't because cameron resigned, and so far no one has the balls to press the button. Do you wander why that might be? When we leave, if things do or do not happen, then you can say the predictions were right or wrong. Currently...
  5. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit,actually the UK has come out rather well.

    IT IS NOW!!!!!! see point above about not understanding. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36449974
  6. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit,actually the UK has come out rather well.

    the threats and impact of leaving, will only happen when we leave!! This just proves the " you don't understand " point made above. Currently we're in the EU, so how can the impacts of leaving be felt now?
  7. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit,actually the UK has come out rather well.

    it's only claptrap is its proven to be claptrap, currently 8 months or whatever we are in. I've not heard a single reason for leaving the EU that actually makes sense from a leaver. Not a single one. So yes I'm afraid I'll continue to use the " you don't understand " line because its not...
  8. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit,actually the UK has come out rather well.

    again, you're suggesting the working man voted for this. I know loads of working class people who voted remain. The problem is it wasn't the EU kicking the working man was it??.. it was the UK government decisions over the past 30 years and globalisation. Neither of which will be changed by...
  9. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit,actually the UK has come out rather well.

    ah, see there is the problem. They've had a kick in the teeth, and lashed out in the direction they were told to. The problem is they were told to lash out against the elite, but Farage, Johnson, Gove etc etc. who clearly are the Elite, so a large number of people who voted with their emotion...
  10. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I knew you weren't a fan of facts... but now you're not a fan of numbers. You realise you're not doing anything good for the image of the leave voter. You're supposed to be able to debate, show us we're wrong. Help prove that leaving is positive, give us hope! Show us what you voted for.
  11. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit,actually the UK has come out rather well.

    Its a simple lack of understanding of statistics, don't beat yourself up about it ;) Its not just the elite who want to keep us in the EU, you know. That's pretty judgemental to assume that. Also Elite, does mean: "a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest...
  12. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    with a bit of help ;)
  13. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit,actually the UK has come out rather well.

    we're in danger of getting into a debate, that I'm afraid you won't win if you think the majority voted for Brexit. They didn't. That's a simple fact. You think in a referendum for change, that people not voting means they want the change, that's nonsense I'm afraid. It clearly shows a...
  14. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So Brexit majority was 1,269,501. Government running with that as the "will of the people" can't be ignored etc etc. Petition today to keep Trump out, now at 1,131,000 and rising rapidly https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928 Governemnt to ignore this as : The BBC source reportedly...
  15. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit,actually the UK has come out rather well.

    This doesn't make any logic... the election will get a rerun Thursday 7 May 2020 at the latest. Also I'm sure many were in favour of a referendum, but expected it to be run with a bit more of a basis in fact. The one we got was not something anyone can be proud of surely.
  16. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit,actually the UK has come out rather well.

    also don't forget, you have to transport anything. Fuel has jumped a lot since referendum, all do to with it being purchased in $$ I think. And don't forget that the business owner in the UK has had all his/her costs go up. He / she has to eat, buy coffee for the office etc etc. Just because...
  17. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    how on earth will leaving the EU make any difference to this problem?? and I agree its a problem.... but its caused by the UK, and solved by the UK. Nothing the EU does or doesn't do can solve this can it?
  18. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What planet are you currently on, that has given you the impression that a post Brexit UK will have more regulation and protection for workers? Everything coming from the government currently is about less regulation to make us more competitive. That "problem" you've described won't change...
  19. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Currently UK is EU... so all your points are just as valid to UK national workers as EU ones. Leaving the EU won't solve any of the problems you have described. All you're doing is adding a layer of red tape, which will put costs up for UK consumers, we're still going to need the EU workers...
  20. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    What makes you think they are cheap?? Do you think all the Doctors in the NHS are cheap? Certainly all the EU people I know who work in the bike industry aren't paid any less. They are here because we need them, they are here because our economy is strong, and equally our economy is strong...