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  1. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    oh wow, so now you're suggesting goverment policy won't effect my business.
  2. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Nobody wants to employ them... the fault of the EU... no Give them some practical education.... the fault of the EU.... no you honestly think an increasingly right wing conservative government empowered by the Brexit vote is going to improve the chances of these kids? I only said you...
  3. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    wow, I just fell off my chair. I honestly can't believe that anyone who is intelligent enough to work a forum can think that leaving the EU is going to mean the yoof on your street corner are more likely to get a job. From what I can see we're not suffering from unemployment problems now, the...
  4. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    agreed with all that... however as has been stated over and over and over and over and over again. Leaving the EU will solve non of these issues will it. Many of these issues will actually be worse outside the EU. The rest of it is called progress, you might not like it, but its happening...
  5. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So you're in agreement with the experts that leaving will have a cost - ie be negative. So leaving has a certain negativity, and you'd rather take a certain negativity than continue with a proven current positive, that you're worried might in the future become negative. That is logic that's so...
  6. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You seem to accept as true that the EU will prove to be unsuccessful, Where is the proof? All we can currently say is that the vast majority of experts, in pretty much all relevant topics agree that being a member of the EU is a positive currently. a small majority of the public who voted...
  7. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I didn't say anyone's vote was worth more or less than anyone else's. However when the MPs look at what is best for the country, they have to take on board the "opinion" of the country, and work out what is best for us all. So whilst the votes are worth the same, the impact of the votes can...
  8. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Massive generalisation... coming up. New data out today shows, the brilliant news. We're being taken out of the EU by a load of old, uneducated people. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38762034 obviously this isn't new news, but the details are new and do back up many things, that had...
  9. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The fact they are being revised isn't a problem to my statement, the fact that growth is better than expected whilst we're still in the EU doesn't effect things does it? The problem is people saying Brexit is a success, look at the growth. Which is nonsense any way you look at it. I don't...
  10. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I can't face going back to find your post about being from S.Yorkshire area, but I thought this might interest you so I've quoted a random post above so you get notified. Brinsworth & Catcliffe (Rotherham) result: LDEM: 66.0% (+50.4) LAB: 17.1% (-26.2) UKIP: 12.8% (-16.4) CON: 3.0% (-8.8) GRN...
  11. KTM Bike Industries UK

    A little help needed - KTM Macina Race with Nyon

    If you want to do the updates and get a print out of the data on the battery, yes I'm afraid you'll need to take it to a dealer. Or you can do as Artsu has, and just ride, smile, charge, ride, smile, charge etc etc etc. and worry about the updates / data if and when its needed, which might be...
  12. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Growth, because we're still in the EU!!!!!!! We've not left yet!!!!
  13. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    well if nothing else we can thank the EU parliament for this today.
  14. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    well you don't know that do you. Did you see the standing ovation Ken Clarke got yesterday. The MPs and Lords are just waiting for something to happen so they can kick this to the kerb for another generation. We've not left yet, so you have no idea if my Mum's plans are working or not. The...
  15. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    My mum's logic for voting remain was (not this alone before any one says anything) She looked at the leave campaign team. Saw: Gove, Rees-Mogg, Boris, Farage etc and said even if she didn't know what they were proposing, she's pretty sure it would be nonsense and self serving. So would vote...
  16. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I agree. From what I've heard its all about timing. Currenlty MPs / Lords don't feel they have enough ammunition to go against the "will of the people". Thats why all the MPs are getting up and saying they think its a bad idea, but they will vote with the governement... they all expect /...
  17. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    wow, I'm shocked by this. So you really think a club, will give a leaving member a better deal (even if yes it is better for the club)... because I've run clubs before, and even on a small scale that would be suicide for the club. Everyone would leave and therefore the club would be over. So...
  18. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    One to send your MP if you feel the need: Dear ****************** I am your constituent – my address is **************************** I ask you to please sign amendment NC99 for Parliamentary approval of the final terms of withdrawal from the EU. This will ensure Parliament has full control...
  19. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Daily Mail, starting to realise what it means. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4172912/Brexit-DEADLY.html
  20. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You do realise they are protesting about him coming here. Not interfering in foreign democrazy. Also, I think it creates a great impression. So we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.