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  1. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Yes, it won't take long before our behavior starts to get noticed on mainland Europe and we start finding we loose the EU citizens here who work and contribute, and we get back all the "expats" we don't like to call immigrants from Spain who are currently enjoying a good life care of the EU.
  2. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Here's an example of the sort of mess this referendum has unleashed. Please also note, we're still members of the EU currently, and nothing has or hasn't been agreed on how we move forward once we leave. But this is happening to real people. "Received a letter from the Home Office today. My...
  3. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    hmm, you're not looking in the places I'm looking. There is a growing resistance and a motivated one at that, and its a powerful, business, industry, university led one. I'm guessing you're not a member of any of the pro remain groups or parties so you won't be seeing whats going on behind...
  4. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Consultants and lawyers, yes - but what we need is trade negotiators... but I take you'r point and I'll look forward to reading your post when you get time to respond in full. All my experience and research suggests he hasn't really exaggerated as there is no benefit. He's trying to present a...
  5. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I think they are just saying, he'd have more cheese if he'd have done nothing. Granted they have the ability of hindsight, but they are looking at the numbers / facts from the past 30 years of trading, which prove that he's had a negative impact on his own wealth. That's not opinion, its numbers.
  6. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    hasn't it been shown that if he'd just taken his fathers money and put it in a bank he'd be financially better off than he is now. Or is this not true? http://www.moneytalksnews.com/why-youre-probably-better-investing-than-donald-trump/
  7. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ok, you're going to have to give me an example of where you think he's exaggerated and what you've based your opinion that his assessment of things is exaggerated on. I want to try to find positives.... help me!!
  8. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Honestly... watch this, and read the book if you have time, its very very interesting and quite a few people on here talking about trade in the future need a better understanding of how trade works globally.
  9. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I didn't say trade stops... I've never said trade stops, that's my point. What I'm saying is trade will carry on, it'll just be that our imports cost us more, and take longer to get here. Our exports will also be less competitive and take longer to get to their destination. So we'll be worse...
  10. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No I'm not saying FTSE rising is a good or bad thing. I'm just saying that you can't say its because of confidence in the UK, when its actually caused by the slump in the value of the £. The result might be a good thing for pensions etc etc etc, I'm not denying that. All I'm saying is don't...
  11. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    HI David.... sorry yes I understand the point, I know it all to well. Which brings me onto the next point. No I'm afraid we won't be at Bike Place. We pulled out. Our margin has been halved even with putting prices up, so we've had to look at every cost and a lot of the marketing has been...
  12. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm not talking about trade, I'm talking about the trade deals. We have 64 currently one with the EU, and then 63 via the EU with the rest of the world. When we leave we won't have any trade deals. So we'll still trade but it will be under WTO rules. You can loose a trade deal in seconds...
  13. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Woosh is assuming you pay for the container before its shipped, therefore all the time its on its way you're essentially speculating on the value of that product. But the time it land you're either better of worse off depending on whether you'd have been better paying when it arrives, or when...
  14. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. The only two companies I have close ties with european HQs in the UK are very very serious about moving to the EU post brexit. They are only in the UK to access the EU market place. Loosing the UK from the EU won't make a big % difference to their...
  15. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This, is the kind of quote I really need someone to explain to me.... so please help me. My understanding of the situation. numbers taken from here: https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-eu-trade/ 53% of our imports come into the UK from the EU (we're part of this because KTM come into the UK from...
  16. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Inflation is starting to go up, as predicted. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38649676 Most trade prices in the industries I know have gone up more than once now and in total of about 15%, so if that is mirrored across all the import industries which is pretty much has to be... it can't be...
  17. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You're lack of understanding on how this and other international trade works is starting to show though, and you do need to do some more research. These companies are showing higher values because a lot of their assets / property, businesses etc etc are not in the UK, the company might be UK...
  18. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    we're not being punished... we're loosing the benefits of the members ship of the club we were once in. You can't still use the facilities at the gym once you quit... that isn't the gym "punishing you". The fact that you can see that leaving is going to leave us "punished" shows that there...
  19. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    oh god. So much ignorance in one post. I don't know where to start.
  20. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    This mornings note from our currency broker.. "Sterling fell below the 1.20 mark against the US dollar in early trading as markets reacted to the latest Brexit news. Over the weekend both Prime Minister Theresa May and Chancellor Philip Hammond reignited fears of a hard Brexit, with Hammond...