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  1. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You're not alone. I was in a meeting in Austria just before Christmas, with French, Italian, Flemish, Romanian, German, Danish, Polish, Spanish and Portuguese staff from KTM. To say I felt embarrassed because of my nationality would be putting it mildly. I traveled a lot when we were known as...
  2. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    that's because it was promised that A50 would be triggered as soon as the result was confirmed. This isn't me making stuff up, this is fact. The predictions were based on the impact of leaving... not on the impact of just voting to leave. This collapse in value of the £ is a bonus impact...
  3. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You can't say the grave warnings about Brexit haven't come true... BECAUSE BREXIT HASN'T HAPPENED YET!!!!! They could come true, they could be even worse, they could better. But the one thing you can't say is that they are wrong, because we don't know that yet. But the one good thing about...
  4. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm not fast forwarding to anything. I'm asking you what you think will be positive about a free trade agreement with the US, when you don't like the free trade agreement we currently have with the EU? If you're not happy with an agreement that put's us as one of the big boys in a club of 28...
  5. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    The other trend... you're ignoring everything that doesn't fit your unicorn filled bubble. So I'll say it again... you think a free trade agreement with the US will be a good thing? And the reason's you want to leave the EU are?? But you want to jump out of bed with a group of 27 nations, and...
  6. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    ok, so what do you want? a free trade agreement with the USA? do you have any idea what the impact of that would be to UK? What strings could be attached? Free movement for US citizens? Allow US companies access to the privatisation of the NHS? We already trade with the US... so what...
  7. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    and this is what it costs us: http://static2.uk.businessinsider.com/image/5873aae55d0bc423008b532e-1444
  8. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Ebike vs Road bike

    I actually did some direct comparison on this a while back. Motors have improved since, so I suspect it'll be even better on an eBike. I might have to update it. http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/how-much-faster-by-ebike.16505/
  9. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    Some more trade facts for you Tillson. Useful briefing from the House of Commons Library, showing: - the UK exported £230 billion worth of goods & services to the rest of the EU in 2015, up £97.3bn since 1999 - 58% of the goods we export go to other EU Member States - if we leave and fall back...
  10. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I hear Lister, and just think of Red Dwarf... not sure what they says, or doesn't say about me ;)
  11. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You missed the point again!! I wasn't speculating... I asked you questions. I've not proposed my thoughts have I.
  12. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I have thought about this this point a lot, because currently all our KTM dealers essentially import from the EU direct to their stores. So currently if they are VAT registered they hold that stock at 20% less cost because they don't have to pay the VAT to then claim it back again. If / when...
  13. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    I'm not speculating Tilson! It just appears you're debating something you now even admit you don't know about. Direct message me your address. I'll send you this book. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brexit-Happens-Everything-Britains-Divorce/dp/0995497826 There is a good review here:
  14. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    So you think, a) that we don't already trade with other countries? b) that we'll be able to get a better deal? bearing in mind the EU is a much bigger more attractive market (even without the UK) than the UK is, and also that we don't have anyone to negotiate deals with the rest of the...
  15. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    No you weren't talking about a specific car brand, and neither was I. We're talking about our future relationship with the EU single market (to sell to it, and to buy from it) and you're saying we hold cards... like if we were buying a car from a dealership. So the EU has to listen to us...
  16. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    You've got it exactly right. Its like walking into a car dealer ship. expect you've missed one key point... in the example we're a car customer and the EU is the dealership yes? In the context of us leaving the EU, we can't simply refuse to buy the car and go somewhere else can we? We need...
  17. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    lol looks like its all going to be ok... its not what she says that the problem, its that people report what she says. Now "hard brexit" is being denied. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/theresa-may-denies-backing-hard-brexit-blames-media-for-plunging-pound_uk_587397ede4b0961f0938aa4f
  18. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    That's not how its reads today. The value of the pound has fallen to a two-month low against major currencies after Prime Minister Theresa May signalled the UK would pursue a so-called "hard Brexit" from the EU. Sterling fell about 1% across the board. The only currency against which it gained...
  19. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    nice (depressing) graph through from our currency broker this morning.. now what was that happened back in June..... ??
  20. KTM Bike Industries UK

    Brexit, for once some facts.

    just another "fact" to get us back on topic. Continental - the tyre people, emailed all their customers at the back end of last week... I've yet to see the email but I believe they essentially say.. 15% approx average prices rises across the board, and they expect it to kill sales for a bit...