My Agutta Has Landed

prState

Pedelecer
Jun 14, 2007
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Las Vegas, Nevada
I can balance my Lafree on the back wheel pretty easily (I mean standing next to it, not riding), so you could probably weigh it that way without picking it up. And you don't have to be naked!

Just for the record, I actually got a correct weight of my 123 kg scooter using two bathroom scales with the front wheel on one scale and the rear on the other adding the weights together. (of course, I already knew the weight, so it was just confirming it).
 

daniel67

Finding my (electric) wheels
Nov 10, 2007
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OK the bike landed at 6:30. It looks great but it weighs in at just under 26 kilos on my scales, anyway I am going back to bed now.
 

HarryB

Esteemed Pedelecer
Jan 22, 2007
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London
OK the bike landed at 6:30. It looks great but it weighs in at just under 26 kilos on my scales, anyway I am going back to bed now.

But we are all desperately waiting for a road test....how can you sleep?
 
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Cyclezee

Guest
Yes Harry exactly, the entire pedelec community is waiting for Daniel to take it for a spin and he wants to sleep. Me I'm like a kid on Christmas Eve waiting for Santa:(

John
 

daniel67

Finding my (electric) wheels
Nov 10, 2007
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When you have 3 kids and a battery that takes four hours for its first charge sleep is easy.

Anyway there is a problem at 5foot 6 my feet are nowhere near the floor with the seat at its lowest setting my wife who is 5 foot 8 can only just touch the floor. I will need to get the smaller model the 53 is too big!!

50cycles had said this would be OK, but I suppose that is the downside of buying online.

Daniel
 
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Cyclezee

Guest
Yes, the size of riders is all wrong, I'm 6 foot and I was going to order the 57cm bike which should have been right for me, but was advised it would be too big, I ordered the 53cm frame instead. That must be really annoying for you and yet another problem that 50cycles need to correct on their website or a lot more people will have this problem:(

John
 

daniel67

Finding my (electric) wheels
Nov 10, 2007
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Well I did check with them first but hey with 3 kids I have learnt to be very patient

Daniel
 
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Cyclezee

Guest
Back to the weight issue, I see that the 50cycles website has just been changed to read bike weight 23Kg, battery weight 2.4Kg and the total weight has been removed this makes a total of 25.4Kg which is in the ballpark of the weight Daniel recorded on the 53cm medium framed model:rolleyes: Next will be frame sizes I supose.

I think an apology on the website to all those who have been mislead regarding frame size and weight would be the least they could do.

John
 
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flecc

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Oct 25, 2006
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The one that they were supposed to be bringing to me to try out had better be a smaller one, since I'm 5' 6" too. That size of frame and a test will hardly be possible without a change to a rigid seat stem.
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Tim

Esteemed Pedelecer
Nov 1, 2006
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London
Back to the weight issue, I see that the 50cycles website has just been changed to read bike weight 23Kg, battery weight 2.4Kg and the total weight has been removed this makes a total of 25.4Kg which is in the ballpark of the weight Daniel recorded on the 53cm medium framed model:rolleyes: Next will be frame sizes I supose.

I think an apology on the website to all those who have been mislead regarding frame size and weight would be the least they could do.

John
Hi, we based the weight on the delivery note from the manufacturer which states 23kg for each bike. Here's a scan of the relevant line below for our first two sample bikes:



So I based the specs page on this. They must be using packaging with a negative weight to save on shipping costs ;) It's corrected now, sorry about the confusion. It certainly feels lighter than my Forte which weighs in around 26kg.
 
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Cyclezee

Guest
Oh Dear, I'm starting to feel like cancelling my order:( Ijust wonder what other issues there may be:confused:

On a slightly different tack I thougt Flecc looked taller than 5'6" in his A to B Photo;)

John
 

daniel67

Finding my (electric) wheels
Nov 10, 2007
16
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Well I spoke to Scott and the bike is being colelcted, I will now have to wait untill feb for the 47cm version.

The bike quality looked great and I would not be put off by the weight.

However if you like to be able to put both feet on the ground when seated you need to be 5 foot 8 minimum in my opinion.

Daniel
 

flecc

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Oct 25, 2006
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However if you like to be able to put both feet on the ground when seated you need to be 5 foot 8 minimum in my opinion.

Daniel
Or change the seat post for a rigid one, which I'd prefer anyway. It's already fitted with a comfort saddle, so scarcely needs seat post springing, which never operates on my 11 stones/70 kilos anyway.
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flecc

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Oct 25, 2006
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On a slightly different tack I thougt Flecc looked taller than 5'6" in his A to B Photo;)

John
There's never been a published photo of me anywhere in my lifetime, giving rise to postings drawing parallels with The Stig.

Isn't that right John? ;)
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derrick7

Pedelecer
Aug 22, 2007
107
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Llanberis LL55 4TD (Snowdonia)
Let me know

The one that they were supposed to be bringing to me to try out had better be a smaller one, since I'm 5' 6" too. That size of frame and a test will hardly be possible without a change to a rigid seat stem.
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I am 5' 6" tall with a 28 inch inside leg (that's why I have trouble getting trousers to fit me)
Your inside leg measurement is the most important, but it's never mentioned, just your height. Someone who is 6' 6" but has a small inside leg measurement would buy a frame for their height but find it completely unsuitable, I think frames should be quoted against inside leg measurement; forget about height.

Derrick - Llanberis
 
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Cyclezee

Guest
I see as I expected 50cycles have now chaged the frame size section of the KalKhoff page to Large, Medium and Small, with no mention of the riders height, less misleading I suppose.

John
 

ITSPETEINIT

Esteemed Pedelecer
Dec 11, 2006
492
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Mere, Wilts
Apology And Recompense

Back to the weight issue, I see that the 50cycles website has just been changed to read bike weight 23Kg, battery weight 2.4Kg and the total weight has been removed this makes a total of 25.4Kg which is in the ballpark of the weight Daniel recorded on the 53cm medium framed model:rolleyes: Next will be frame sizes I supose.

I think an apology on the website to all those who have been mislead regarding frame size and weight would be the least they could do.

John
I think 50Cycles should take responsibility for what they post on their website - I've said so before.
They should:
1. Write to every customer (by recorded delivery) who has ordered and/or been delivered an Agutta Pedelec apologising for THEIR error.
2. Offer to cancel the order or take the cycle(s) back and refund any payment made.
3. Offer to cover the cost of returning the cycle to Loughborough.

Then and ONLY then will they be able to truly say they really have a "GOOD NATURE".
It may seem like "commercial suicide" but whilst we are using metaphors what they have done (as in the case of my MISREPRESENTED Chopper, never mind the error in offering a GUARANTEE when in the recesses of their mind it was a WARRANTY and they still have not declared that the Battery Warranty is for ONLY 6 MONTHS on the Specification which misleads with "ONE YEARS PARTS AND REPAIRS") IS "Commercial murder".
Fat Chance!
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flecc

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I am 5' 6" tall with a 28 inch inside leg (that's why I have trouble getting trousers to fit me)


Derrick - Llanberis
Same problem Derrick, same height, inside leg between 28" and 29", but with a seamstress mother I learnt to sew and use sewing machines at a very early age, so can correct the trousers.
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Chris

Pedelecer
Sep 11, 2007
90
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Reading all the posts about the Agattu and the criticism of 50Cycles, reminded me why I gave up dealing with the public in another life and switched to industry; as soon as some people spend more than £2.50 they demand perfection and are generally unreasonable and not prepared to accept honest error.The electric bikes industry is relatively new, and companies are to be encouraged, not beaten over the head all the time.
Sorry if this post is a bit pointed but that`s my view the destructive comments made towards 50C. and other emeging/growing companies.
Chris :(