Brexit, for once some facts.

flecc

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So they are lefties? really?
This is what Google thinks:

"The Adam Smith Institute is a free market, neoliberal think tank based in London. It advocates classically liberal public policies to create a richer, freer world."

This is what the institute itself says:

"Individuals with left-wing and liberal views are overrepresented in British academia. Those with right-wing and conservative views are correspondingly underrepresented."

So it seems they are right wing biased for balance, in their view of course.
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Zlatan

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Maybe you should read:
FRANCO THE FASCIST
Available on Amazon...

(No, I have not read it and have no intention of buying it.)
The argument isnt about wether Franco was or wasnt a Fascist (in reality his links to tradition and the Church prove he wasnt) its about the EU's contribution to the demise of Fascism, which is obviously zero, infact the EU has almost certainly contributed to the recent rise of the right wing in Italy and Spain. As to wether these are Fascist is debatable and irrelevant.
 
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Meanwhile, back at the ranch, labour sort-of makes a sort-of decision...
Corbyn sees off Watson challenge over second referendum
Labour’s ruling body votes against unequivocally backing in European election manifesto
 
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The argument isnt about wether Franco was or wasnt a Fascist (in reality his links to tradition and the Church prove he wasnt) its about the EU's contribution to the demise of Fascism, which is obviously zero, infact the EU has almost certainly contributed to the recent rise of the right wing in Italy and Spain. As to wether these are Fascist is debatable and irrelevant.
So why did you post: Contrary to popular belief Franco was not Fascist. ?
 
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Zlatan

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So why did you post: Contrary to popular belief Franco was not Fascist. ?
Becuse OG said he was, many think same, but he wasnt. Just Google it. Fascists do not reinsate church, tradition and monarchs. But its nothing to do with EU. Somebody posted EU had rid Europe of Fascism, which they did not. End of. EU has only fostered right wing, as in Vox in Spain, with their open border policies and such.
Franco being a fascist or not was an argument between OG and myself, but OT. He wasnt but EU has done nothing towards eliminating fascism in Europe.
We can thank all the soldiers, airmen and sailors who died in WW2 for defeating fascism, not EU. Had those sacrifices not been made Europe would even now be a fascist dictatorship. Fact it isnt has got nothing whatsoever to do with EU.
Like I said a couple of pages ago, Fascism was defeated in 1945,OG for some reason disagrees with that. But thats OG,saying Franco was a fascist, until 1975,which is rubbish.
 
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OxygenJames

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Now what made you say that? is it painful? And there was me thinking with the "Oxygen" Monika, you had a case of rust!:eek:
Seriously any progress on that pending "op" yet?
Op date set for the morning of the 17th. So not long now. Thanks for asking.

Keep working on your material btw - it's coming along nicely. Stand up could be your way to riches.
 
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OxygenJames

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This is what Google thinks:

"The Adam Smith Institute is a free market, neoliberal think tank based in London. It advocates classically liberal public policies to create a richer, freer world."

This is what the institute itself says:

"Individuals with left-wing and liberal views are overrepresented in British academia. Those with right-wing and conservative views are correspondingly underrepresented."

So it seems they are right wing biased for balance, in their view of course.
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OG knows all that. He's just f****ing with me.
 
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I went out shopping today in the next town. I visited a couple of pound shops, every charity shop I could find and Greggs to fill up with grub and do you know I never saw a single solitary Fascist. Looked everywhere even in Wilko's, but no not a Fascist in sight. Perhaps they're all up north because there's none here on the south coast.
There again maybe the EU eradicated them all, what do you think?

BTW what does a Fascist look like, anyone know?
 

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I went out shopping today in the next town. I visited a couple of pound shops, every charity shop I could find and Greggs to fill up with grub and do you know I never saw a single solitary Fascist. Looked everywhere even in Wilko's, but no not a Fascist in sight. Perhaps they're all up north because there's none here on the south coast.
There again maybe the EU eradicated them all, what do you think?

BTW what does a Fascist look like, anyone know?
You are right, we dont have any.
 
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flecc

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BTW what does a Fascist look like, anyone know?
They don't look like fascists, they behave like fascists if given the opportunity. And it's electorates that can give them that opportunity.

Despite what some think in here, we have plenty of potential fascists, as do all countries. Fortunately they only rarely get a chance to practice their beliefs.
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They don't look like fascists, they behave like fascists if given the opportunity. And it's electorates that can give them that opportunity.

Despite what some think in here, we have plenty of potential fascists, as do all countries. Fortunately they only rarely get a chance to practice their beliefs.
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We have less than any other country in Europe... But I suppose that's because of EU...
 
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We have less than any other country in Europe... But I suppose that's because of EU...
No, nothing to do with the EU. We have just as many potential fascists, but only appear to have less because of our culture, being mostly less up front with our feelings.

I've known some personally, the worst one not just fascist but Nazi and a Hitler admirer as well. He had a huge range of nazi memorabilia and a nazi uniform which he liked to dress up in within his North London home.

But the weirdest thing of all is that he was Jewish. Just what poisoned him so much against his own people was never forthcoming.
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https://mol.im/a/6976583

Does anybody actually understand this.
My take: it seems to me pretty clear that Corbyn is trying to keep as many Labour supporters as he can. And a promise to have another vote is going to cause all sorts of trouble with that.

Remember in order to implement his socialist paradise he really wants us as far away from EU regulations as possible.
 
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OxygenJames

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My take: it seems to me pretty clear that Corbyn is trying to keep as many Labour supporters as he can. And a promise to have another vote is going to cause all sorts of trouble with that.

Remember in order to implement his socialist paradise he really wants us as far away from EU regulations as possible.
This is kind of interesting about Labour:

https://unherd.com/2019/04/labours-latest-target/
 

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