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The CyberTruck is 17 times more likely to have a fire fatality than a Ford Pinto
 

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"Thereport, published in December inNature Energy, suggests that EV batteries could last 38 percent longer than previous lab-based estimates. That means drivers could get as much as 314,000 kilometers (195,000 miles) more out of their EVs than academic researchers believed."
 
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Looking at this from the outside, all of the tendencies towards authoritarianism were obvious before the election and he was still elected - and not by a small margin. I think this happened for two reasons: the Democrats put up an obviously senile candidate and then panicked when he was reduced to a mumbling wreck on television. By then - their dishonest stupidity in lauding such a candidate had ruined their credibility and to cap it all, they put up his arch helper and support, the Vice President who only days before had been saying what a great fellow the senile one was. Ordinary people will not tolerate such arrogant stupidity, which is why Trump won by such a margin. The other reason of course that a man like Trump won, is that American society has become so tribal that to a certain extent, even a bad candidate is seen as better than voting for the other side.

There is a contradiction there, I know, but the Democrats had lost so much trust after putting up Biden who was incapable of speaking coherently, that they lost a lot of votes - I'm guessing from people just being so disenchanted that they didn't vote at all.

I'm amazed that the Democratic Party was unable to see where they were headed. Why could they not see that Biden would destroy their chances? How were they incapable of foreseeing the result? And it isn't just a one party thing. Time and again both parties have fielded terrible candidates. GW Bush was barely capable too. Dire things happened in the Middle East under his watch because he fell under the spell of extremist people in his cabinet. The office of President requires top drawer intellect and too often the post is occupied by people who are far from capable.
 
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Looking at this from the outside, all of the tendencies towards authoritarianism were obvious before the election and he was still elected - and not by a small margin. I think this happened for two reasons: the Democrats put up an obviously senile candidate and then panicked when he was reduced to a mumbling wreck on television. By then - their dishonest stupidity in lauding such a candidate had ruined their credibility and to cap it all, they put up his arch helper and support, the Vice President who only days before had been saying what a great fellow the senile one was. Ordinary people will not tolerate such arrogant stupidity, which is why Trump won by such a margin. The other reason of course that a man like Trump won, is that American society has become so tribal that to a certain extent, even a bad candidate is seen as better than voting for the other side.

There is a contradiction there, I know, but the Democrats had lost so much trust after putting up Biden who was incapable of speaking coherently, that they lost a lot of votes - I'm guessing from people just being so disenchanted that they didn't vote at all.
Biden seems to suffer from repeated mini-strokes, Harris got given so much money that made her looking like she was buying votes instead of winning them.
USA is seeing the rise of plutocracy and oligarchy. The invention of digital coins made people feel richer than they are, and lazier. After covid shutdown, they become even lazier than ever before. China has clearly become the biggest economy in the world, stock markets hit dizzying heights. USA suddenly wake up that they have been living on borrowed money too long. There are not enough jobs for natives so immigrants have to go. However, reality will soon hit home. Not that long ago, childen as young as 11 swept chimneys. That's the price we have to pay if we want immigrants out and do everything ourselves.
 

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"Thereport, published in December inNature Energy, suggests that EV batteries could last 38 percent longer than previous lab-based estimates. That means drivers could get as much as 314,000 kilometers (195,000 miles) more out of their EVs than academic researchers believed."
Maybe not, not in any wet climate like British Isles? :)
 

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"Thereport, published in December inNature Energy, suggests that EV batteries could last 38 percent longer than previous lab-based estimates. That means drivers could get as much as 314,000 kilometers (195,000 miles) more out of their EVs than academic researchers believed."
It's total BS. This guy is an advocate foe EVs. He got a shock recently when one of his own ones had to be SCRAPPED after just two years.
 
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It's total BS. This guy is an advocate foe EVs. He got a shock recently when one of his own ones had to be SCRAPPED after just two years.
His problem is unfortunately not uncommon. My gardener bought an electric Peugeot 2 years ago. He took his EV to England on his car's maiden voyage. It developed an intermmittent fault. He wasted nearly a year for it to be sorted out between Peugeot in France and its UK dealer.
The fault on the Ami may be a faulty small component but his local dealer can't diagnose the problem correctly so proposed a total replacement of the electrics. Eventually, garages will have trained mechanics to deal with any brand EVs.
 

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His problem is unfortunately not uncommon. My gardener bought an electric Peugeot 2 years ago. He took his EV to England on his car's maiden voyage. It developed an intermmittent fault. He wasted nearly a year for it to be sorted out between Peugeot in France and its UK dealer.
The fault on the Ami may be a faulty small component but his local dealer can't diagnose the problem correctly so proposed a total replacement of the electrics. Eventually, garages will have trained mechanics to deal with any brand EVs.
He had another problem that was fixed under warranty. The motor was screeching, so they fitted a new motor. I guess nobody told them first check that the motor connector was in far enough.

You're right about the fixing. I've seen a video about a garage that specialises in fixing EVs. When people were told by the main dealer that they needed a new battery for more cost than the value of the car, these guys fixed it by replacing a simple component that cost a couple of hundred quid. They said it was a common point of failure. Unfortunately, the whole battery had to be removed to get at it.

Some time in the future, garage's will know how to fix EVs, the batteries won't catch fire and the range will be 500 miles. I'll wait 'till then before I buy in. It's great that others are happy to be the pioneers that expose and sort out all the problems, though it's sad that most of them have been conned into it and later regretted it.
 
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from this year, batteries are mostly fixed. Training mechanics for the new EV age may take a lot longer. I watched a video where the guy replaced a high voltage electronic fuse that connects the battery pack to the high voltage power circuit. The part costs about £100 new from the same main dealer that proposed a new battery for about £9000.
 

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It's total BS. This guy is an advocate foe EVs. He got a shock recently when one of his own ones had to be SCRAPPED after just two years.
I posted long ago that the Ami battery will only last a couple of years and its not a fair comparison with other e-car batteries. It stands to reason, it's only 5kW with only local range capability so can need almost daily full charging and often being almost emptied. Compare that to my Leaf when in local use, like shopping etc., only needing a charge as little as once a month and never being emptied below 30%.

That's why I don't see these small evs with equally small batteries being used to their limits having a sensible future.
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I posted long ago that the Ami battery will only last a couple of years and its not a fair comparison with other e-car batteries. It stands to reason, it's only 5kW with only local range capability so can need almost daily full charging and often being almost emptied. Compare that to my Leaf when in local use, like shopping etc., only needing a charge as little as once a month and never being emptied below 30%.

That's why I don't see these small evs with equally small batteries being used to their limits having a sensible future.
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Is it going to reach 314,000 miles, like they said above? How far has it been, and what's its present state?
 

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Is it going to reach 314,000 miles, like they said above? How far has it been, and what's its present state?
Not relevant to the Ami I commented on and which was illustrated in your post. I don't watch these idiotic anti EV videos.

But if you are referring to my seven year old Leaf, of course it hasn't reached 314,000 miles. At that almost 45,000 a year it's an unsuitable car for that sort of mileage which hardly any motorists ever get remotely near to.
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