Prices of the electricity we use to charge

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Here's a pretty good assessment of the EV situation. He spends some time talking about battery life, and he links to a guy, who keeps actual data. Nissan Leaf isn't going to make it to 300,000 miles.
 
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Here's a pretty good assessment of the EV situation. He spends some time talking about battery life, and he links to a guy, who keeps actual data. Nissan Leaf isn't going to make it to 300,000 miles.
The MG Windsor has a lifetime guaranteed battery. Many EVs sold in China also have lifetime guaranteed batteries. New generation of LFP batteries are good for up to 20,000 charging cycles. Batteries are pretty good now if your car has LFP.
 

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all mobility cars will be electric buy 2027


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the new electric tanks will have rail guns so 30 miles range or one shot at full power :p
 
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The MG Windsor has a lifetime guaranteed battery. Many EVs sold in China also have lifetime guaranteed batteries. New generation of LFP batteries are good for up to 20,000 charging cycles. Batteries are pretty good now if your car has LFP.
I've heard about those. It's a special no claim policy with free nude lady. How is she?
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Here's a test of a used Nissan Leaf with the better first generation battery. It's down to 70٪ and a range of 60 miles after 40,000 miles. At least there are used batteries that you can get fitted.

 
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are the batts can bus locked to the controller ie i want to use my own diy batt.

as no one is fixing crash damaged electric cars and i bet if you did make ur own batt it would fail the mot and be uninsurable.

and that is the hole point to make cars a thing for the rich only as they will tax petrol to the point most wont be able to afford it.

matt Armstrong does a raffle on some of the cars he gives away and most have to sell them because they cant afford the insurance :eek:
 

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are the batts can bus locked to the controller ie i want to use my own diy batt.

as no one is fixing crash damaged electric cars and i bet if you did make ur own batt it would fail the mot and be uninsurable.

and that is the hole point to make cars a thing for the rich only as they will tax petrol to the point most wont be able to afford it.

matt Armstrong does a raffle on some of the cars he gives away and most have to sell them because they cant afford the insurance :eek:
There are a load of YouTube videos on how to use many types of EV battery for your house. People will soon be providing conversion boxes that have all the software and code in them. Until then, it's DIY. Obviously stick with LiFePO4 unless you have a big garden and an underground bunker to put it in.
 

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id have to get a inverter that could charge batts but council said years ago no to turn my brick shed in to giant 18650 batt and told no chance.

had the housing officer out today as some retard reported me for all the cams i put up and got the right to buy in and just waiting for the cash.

was valued at 160k and with 52% discount can buy it for £76.800 and i then own the solar panels ;)
 

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The tech is pretty new. Seems a bit odd to knock it in such early stages.
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Besides, this is what drives technology to advance. Had we not have such drive, everyone would still be riding Ebikes like the above.
 

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Here's a test of a used Nissan Leaf with the better first generation battery. It's down to 70٪ and a range of 60 miles after 40,000 miles. At least there are used batteries that you can get fitted.
there are a few Teslas with more than 1 million miles on the same battery.
Batteries can last a long time, especially when used regularly and not abused. One lady customer of mine has reported that her 12 year old battery on her Woosh Aspen has just died. The Aspen has 10A Lishui controller, Bafang SWXH motor and King Meter 790 LED display.

 
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there are a few Teslas with more than 1 million miles on the same battery.
Batteries can last a long time, especially when used regularly and not abused. One lady customer of mine has reported that her 12 year old battery on her Woosh Aspen has just died. The Aspen has 10A Lishui controller, Bafang SWXH motor and King Meter 790 LED display.

Ebike batteries last extremely well when you don't use them much.
 

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Ebike batteries last extremely well when you don't use them much.
I think battery technology in electric cars has sufficiently matured to be now safer than petrol engines but because of the high speed of development, there will be a lot of old and potentially unsafe batteries in use for 10 more years. There will still be cases like Mercedes recalling their cars in China to replace their Chinese batteries or rain water damages some Tesla batteries but I suspect that those cases have specific manufacturing defects, not a general state of EV batteries.
 
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Here's a pretty good assessment of the EV situation. He spends some time talking about battery life, and he links to a guy, who keeps actual data. Nissan Leaf isn't going to make it to 300,000 miles.
Of course not, I knew that before I bought mine long ago,but it didn't matter since I had no intention of doing such mileages. I don't need all these silly videos stating the obvious that you and others post, because I really do know the subject and what is relevant.

Among which is that hardly any drivers ever drive a car over 300,000 mile in its lifetime with them, so it's completely irrelevant to over 99% of us.
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I think battery technology in electric cars has sufficiently matured to be now safer than petrol engines but because of the high speed of development, there will be a lot of old and potentially unsafe batteries in use for 10 more years. There will still be cases like Mercedes recalling their cars in China to replace their Chinese batteries or rain water damages some Tesla batteries but I suspect that those cases have specific manufacturing defects, not a general state of EV batteries.
At the moment, there are still the problems of what happens to the battery in a serious crash; how to repair the car when the battery is damaged; ignition from external sources, like burning buildings, wild fires and other burning vehicles; and how to dispose of the battery when it's finished its service.
 
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At the moment, there are still the problems of what happens to the battery in a serious crash; how to repair the car when the battery is damaged; ignition from external sources, like burning buildings, wild fires and other burning vehicles; and how to dispose of the battery when it's finished its service.
Most of these apply equally to petrol and diesel cars. In serious crashes, petrol vehicles go up like a bomb sometimes. It may well be that a battery car with a damaged battery will need to be scrapped, but these days, insurance companies are scrapping nearly new petrol cars for minor damage. The advent of electronics in bumpers has seen a spate of shunted nearly new cars being scrapped. A burning building with a petrol car with a full tank in it is going to be a nasty thing.
 

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D'you think one could get some of this "Charitable Foundation Funding" money slushing around if they claimed to be 'Studying the effects of E-bikes on 'Klimate''? :cool: