Wander....nobody should question Martins knowledge and customer service but he seems to be completely blinkered in his attitude to these dongles...almost out of character with his business ideals.
Stop plagiarising my old posts young Elderfield! You know it upsets all the criminals who knowingly ride illegally.
I like this post. Although I must say as one who neither knows or cares about all the numbers and what they mean, I find it hard to differentiate between your description of your high powered bikes that can be reprogrammed and a normal bike fitted with a speed up device that can be tuned on or off. Surely they are both the same
Tom....I love being referred to as 'young' ,sadly that is no longer true.Stop plagiarising my old posts young Elderfield! You know it upsets all the criminals who knowingly ride illegally.
Tom
Phil....I thought I had made it perfectly plain....my bikes when they leave my warehouse are legal,when a customer tests my bike at my warehouse or at any of my dealers they are legal.....if a customers decides to take a bike away and reprogram it,that is their choice,it cannot be done by accident it is a conscious decision by the purchaser.
I may be quite wrong here and please feel free to tell me if I am. But I thought the latest regulations made it a requirement that bikes should not be switchable by the rider to be able to go faster than the legal speed; and that the fitting of so called off road switches able to be accessed by the rider was illegal.
Fully agree Dave, the legal assist-speed restriction says it all, not exceeding average cycling speeds.
You do realise that this comment is useless without pictures to prove it.
John.....the speed change on the King Meter is not a simple change,you have to be aware of the button pushing to achieve,it cannot be altered when cycling....please understand this is not a feature of the bike,it's a feature of the display,there are literally thousands of e-bikes out there with King Displays.
In the early days of reprogramming cars I think it was a little box to be plugged in when desired with little real increase in power but now (and I speak from experience ) the engineer comes with a laptop and does his thing. In my case I was after a better fuel consumption and my diesel Peugeot went to over 75mpg and the side effect was a staggering increase in torque.
Yes, I know the King Meters are very common, and I had a bike with one once. But I still wonder if they could fall foul of the new regs which I thought effectively banned rider operated switches to change cut out speed.
I was thinking of that sort of reprogramming when I posted the above. But I don’t think e bikes will be likely to have the kind of accessible and reprogrammable ECU that cars do. Dealers can remap motors now, and Kalkhoff dealers certainly can change the cut out speed with a simple hand held device they all have. But e bikes would have to become much more popular for any third party to make much money from a service like that.
You missed the point. You don't sell bikes with a dongle, but you're worried about people fitting one afterwars because it makes the bike illegal and can bring liabilities. Equally, you sell bikes without lights, but people can fit them and make the bike illegal, which can also bring liabilities. You don't seem to be worrying about that, though. That's the point.
Don't underestimate the younger generation... There are quite a few who do things because they can, not to make money. I used to work as a photographer and found a firmware hack for my camera called magic lantern which when installed opened up a host of features that just weren't there before.. And this was all free.. Just a download and install through a memory card. Of course there was a risk of bricking and this would invalidate the warranty, although some say that canon would not be able to tell it had been done if you sent it back for a claim... Sound familiar?
This video may be little off topic but this thread needs a " time out" as it is getting a little uncomfortable and argumentative. However this definitely beats Sound waves last video of ride in the dark.dongle the washing machine then call out warranty support to fix it.
was only washing a tea towl and look at it
ok, last post from me before I shut my computer off for the weekend.
