the morale issue for me is it's a preventable disease with a potential death toll of about 1.5 million.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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But you cannot prevent all those 1.5 million deaths and attempting to could totally wreck the future for the young, and assure those you've saved a very poor extension to their lives. Those are moral issues too.
As I keep repeating, it's an unavoidable balance of life versus economic cost.
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the economic cost affects all strata of society, not just for young people.
When you consider mitigations of the spread of the disease, the economic cost can be reduced if those gathering in large numbers in closed spaces had more consideration for those at greater risk than themselves.
Look at China which had experienced SARS, they clamp down hard on any clusters, making sure all phones have the app, people who flout the curfew are locked inside their homes, close motorways, no train, no plane in or out of Wuhan. Contrast that with what happened here in January and February and since. 9 months in, we still have not learned the lesson, prefer splashing borrowed money to solve Covid.
When you consider mitigations of the spread of the disease, the economic cost can be reduced if those gathering in large numbers in closed spaces had more consideration for those at greater risk than themselves.
Look at China which had experienced SARS, they clamp down hard on any clusters, making sure all phones have the app, people who flout the curfew are locked inside their homes, close motorways, no train, no plane in or out of Wuhan. Contrast that with what happened here in January and February and since. 9 months in, we still have not learned the lesson, prefer splashing borrowed money to solve Covid.
Be prepared for some very cold winters - even in the face of global warming.
Boris Johnson to unveil plan to power all UK homes with wind by 2030
PM vows to make Britain world leader in low-cost clean power with ‘Build Back Greener’ drive
Boris Johnson to unveil plan to power all UK homes with wind by 2030
PM vows to make Britain world leader in low-cost clean power with ‘Build Back Greener’ drive
But that's a ques tion of what can be done in differing societies. Try the Chinese approach here in the UK and see what happens! Londoners refused to tolerate even what little we did at the outset and openly defied the rules and the authorities, and still do.
We had the spectacle of greatly outnumbered police plaintively saying "What can we do, they are just ignoring us?"
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The inuit also practiced polyandry (wife swapping for the uninitiated). That's not quite what I have in mind with community.
But who says which one of you is right? The world has some wives who like to be swapped.
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What isn't he planning to build as last year Boris was planning to build “miniature” nuclear reactors in Yorkshire, Cumbria, Lancashire and Cheshire in a £500m scheme. Seems a lot of these schemes are a way to throw public money into private hands with minimum returns .... like affordable housing with non built!
Indeed. but I'm not sure I'm ready to take the ethics of a man who lives at -50c on whale blubber and has to shag his neighbour's wife to survive the journey to see him without frost bite as a moral compass
Desperate men do desperate things. Given the humongous amounts we spend on war and vanity projects, I'm sure we can afford to look after the vulnerable.Picky aren't you.
Quick switch your TV's on the President is going home..........oh what a glorious day
parliament could have voted for a law compelling that mobile phones must have a Covid app, the police will arrest curfew breakers, tourism air travels suspended, wear of mask compulsory in public places, sort out test trace and isolate much sooner etc
The Chinese got their app in days and we can't do that even 9 months later.
If his illness was is real,then it is the steroids talking .. my son advises me that they give one a boost of good feeling..Quick switch your TV's on the President is going home..........oh what a glorious day
I still think it’s a numbers game.
there are 30k of under 50s not presenting themselves for preventable cancer treatment gone missing this year.
we should be doing both. I have no idea why they didn’t use the nightingale hospitals...oh yeah. They had the beds but not the nurses.
its not good either way but long term someone should make the decision on an 80 year old with underlying conditions or a 32 year old with young children.
as it stands the stats say we can’t do both.
That electric levitation experiment is a re run of the Milliken oil drop , I did in Year 3 at Uni!A 4 year experiment - fun fact > only guinea pigs can cough and sneeze
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Protecting Health, Saving Lives—Millions at a Timewww.jhsph.edu
I think there's some speedier research happening electrically levitating the virus in different experimental conditions.
UK scientists begin study of how long Covid can survive in the air
Researchers will test length of time virus stays infectious in different climatic conditionswww.theguardian.com