Brexit, for once some facts.
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Top marks to the French, I like them for doing that. Our Government should do the same and if they refuse, they should be made to do it.
They do. They have to by law.
The big problem is when you are in a large catering environment such as a school, prison or sporting event instead of appeasing the vast majority it’s easier for them to make everything halal. It’s not hidden but it’s also not trumpeted .
I find that more than irritating
Do you mean in the UK? I’m under the impression that if you buy lamb from a supermarket, it could be from a Halal slaughter house and there is no requirement to mak it as such. That’s what I object to.
Project Fantasmagoria time in the Express today!
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No deal Brexit to give UK £140billion BOOM say economists - ignore 'project fear HYSTERIA'
Leaving the European Union without a deal is Britain’s best bet for future success and would lead to a £140billion Brexit boom, according to economists.
The strange thing is they don't attribute this statement to anyone or any organisation.
Needless to say it has delighted their readers in the comments section.
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No deal Brexit to give UK £140billion BOOM say economists - ignore 'project fear HYSTERIA'
Leaving the European Union without a deal is Britain’s best bet for future success and would lead to a £140billion Brexit boom, according to economists.
The strange thing is they don't attribute this statement to anyone or any organisation.
Needless to say it has delighted their readers in the comments section.
it's not that far fetched, that can come from devaluation of the Pound.
The problem is all that money will be taken from the poor to give to the already very rich.
No. It has to be labelled as such. We are pretty good over here. Far more stricter than the EU. Although the initial law of halal and kosher came from the EU it’s not enforced as much as here. You only have to look at the horse meat contamination from abattoirs on the continent the last couple of years.
But to be clear. Every halal or kosher meat has to be labelled as such. In most supermarkets it’s in green packaging. It’s when you buy food from kiosks and order food in cafes for instance you may have to ask because the labelling may just be a small sticker in the window.
It probably comes the same place the people say we will lose 10% of the economy if we leave.
It’s not that strange if you’re not rabid one way or another.
The problem is not with the assertion,but that it is not attributed to anyone . Anyone can assert anything and it is an opinion.it can be taken at face value,and given the credence it deserves... depending on the credibility of the source.
Newspapers have a duty to report facts, and identify their sources, opinions and identify their origin. They can even speculate,provided they are clearly indicating that it is their own crystal gazing.
it's not that strange if measured in different units.
brexit referendum caused the Pound to crash about 15%.
If you measure the economy in USD or against a basket of reserve currencies then the economy has taken a hit.
Indeed, we lose our fifth place in world ranking to France since 2017.
If you measure the economy in GBP, you get 15% more Pounds, our economy is booming.
What it means in reality is the poor owning little assets (just their house, their cars and a little cash) get hit, the rich owning businesses, shares and Euros get richer. That'll always be the case whenever there is chaos.
So it seems Mays final vote tomorrow lol. Will be postponed again tomorrow.
This is good in a way. Even the thickest amongst us can see what is happening now. Hopefully this will destroy the Tories for a generation and we get...oh...hang on. We get Corbyn....that’s not going to happen.
I reckon what this idiot has done is far worse than a no deal for the country in the future.
We may end up with Johnson or reees mogggg
This is good in a way. Even the thickest amongst us can see what is happening now. Hopefully this will destroy the Tories for a generation and we get...oh...hang on. We get Corbyn....that’s not going to happen.
I reckon what this idiot has done is far worse than a no deal for the country in the future.
We may end up with Johnson or reees mogggg
If May’s deal fails this week (as it almost certainly will) then the vote on no deal and/or extension of Art 50 is not legally binding. That means that even if Parliament votes to rule out no deal, this does not actually prevent no deal
The default legal position is that we leave the European Union, with or without a deal, on 29 March 2019. Only a statutory instrument could override this default legal position and such an instrument would have to be moved by a Minister of the Crown (eg the Government)
The European Union Withdrawal Act sets out the default legal position. Regardless of motions passed by Parliament, only statute could override statute. Such an instrument would have to pass the HoC & the Lords prior to 29 March 2019- almost impossible
The reality is that unless the Government move legislation to override the default position or in the event Parliament approves a Withdrawal Agreement (virtually impossible) then there is no way to possibly stop Brexit, or to prevent no deal.
All that is required is for those committed to upholding the democratic will of the people is to run the clock down. Parliament has to vote FOR something, and something that will have the force of law. The Cooper amendment and the non-binding motions do not have that force
The default legal position is that we leave the European Union, with or without a deal, on 29 March 2019. Only a statutory instrument could override this default legal position and such an instrument would have to be moved by a Minister of the Crown (eg the Government)
The European Union Withdrawal Act sets out the default legal position. Regardless of motions passed by Parliament, only statute could override statute. Such an instrument would have to pass the HoC & the Lords prior to 29 March 2019- almost impossible
The reality is that unless the Government move legislation to override the default position or in the event Parliament approves a Withdrawal Agreement (virtually impossible) then there is no way to possibly stop Brexit, or to prevent no deal.
All that is required is for those committed to upholding the democratic will of the people is to run the clock down. Parliament has to vote FOR something, and something that will have the force of law. The Cooper amendment and the non-binding motions do not have that force
Companies on the whole get the management they deserve. I look forward to seeing whether a reese mogg goverment or no deal scenario and their respective consequences penetrate the pea soup that is the consciousness of the average ukip voter or their sympathisers.
Congratulations, I fully concur with your analysis. Indeed the ECJ ruling in December stated unequivocally that any decision to withdraw the Article 50 letter,would have to be done in conformance with the democratic norms of the parliament. Now I don't know the speed at which the UK legislature can act to have a single line act passed , are there time limits between successive readings?. But I know that the Irish Government can act swiftly in some matters.
The only point where I quibble is on whether "the will of the people " has any place in the UK system. My understanding is that MPs are elected by the people in the expectation that they will use their best judgement for what is best for the people, and express this view to Her Majesty via parliament. Her Majesty s Ministers will then interpret this and suggest laws . These laws are then voted on by these MPs.
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Obviously, the above is missing the word "broken".
One trouble though, is why the electorate seems to take some "promises" as real and others as mere puff. We have all heard politicians on the stump saying all sorts of things which the person on the Clapham omnibus has treated as unbelievable. Don't we, more or less, expect everything said during a campaign to change and adapt by contact with the "enemy" - reality?
Interesting? only if you actually care
They will end up signing May's deal
You mean all that is required is for Parliament to uphold the illegal result of the Referendum, making them accessories after the fact of a completely undemocratic coup .
They will end up signing May's deal
The HoC can also act swiftly. But it can also get prevented from doing so, at least temporarily, when someone like Christopher Chope objects despite every other member present being in favour.