Doesn't Tusk realise talking like that only hardens the view we have that the EU can go stick its head where the sun doesn't shine.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Tusk - what a twat. As if that's the language to be using at this stage. Twat.
Your are likely correct, I imagine he is just absolutely fed up with the fact that Leavers promised people sunny up lands and reality is far different from that. Unfortunately people are now so entrenched in their positions a referendum would likely still give a leave majority perhaps even an increased one.
I suspect even if we were told all car manufacturing in the UK would be gone in 10 years time if we crash out with no deal, the Conservative Ultras in the ERG would still want to leave on WTO rules.
I've resigned myself to the fact we will be leaving the EU, I just hope TM puts the Country rather than the Tory party first and opts for the softest Brexit she can get, so as little damage is done to the Country as possible.
I can't imagine what he was trying to achieve, trying to shock or looking for sympathy. He does seem to be taking Brexit far more personally than the other EU politicians, looking hurt at times.
He obviously has a strong belief in the EU concept.
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Donald Tusk has to chair heads of state meeting after meeting.
I guess after 5 years (he is President of the European Council since 2014), Tusk is a bit jaded.
watch him in the last episode of Inside Europe: 10 years of turmoil on BBC2, you can see time after time, Tusk locked the doors of his office to bang heads (of state) together until they agree with one another.
The man is courageous.
I strongly suspect he is wrong in that belief, if Brexit goes wrong .... some people may get a jolly good ticking off!
Listen carefully to what he said. His ire was directed directly at those who DIRECTED the Leave camp,who had not thought ANYTHING through, not at those who wanted a remainder position. For nearly three years those people have refused to recognise EU realities.
What he was also saying is that an article 50 extension will not be entertained,... on current thinking.
The options for the UK are stark. He is giving the Westminster crowd, a final chance , to face reality. The set of resolutions passed last week were mutually contradictory. . T. MAY must have known that.
So OJ , that was what he wished to achieve.
Which part of his remark did you disagree with?
Are you saying the people who he complains about behaved in an appropriate fashion?
How responsible has our side been? right through we have given the world an example of behaviour we would have heaped criticism on had anyone else shown it.
And the language used against the EU not merely in the Press but in the HOC has been an utter disgrace.
What he said was fair criticism, and without a doubt it was intended as a Gypsy's warning.
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the right wing press and brexiteers regularly call JC Juncker a drunk, Donald Tusk un-elected nazi etc.
he's probably a bit annoyed because the EU have not been able to overturn the decision to leave. They're used to getting their own way
No. Of course the EU would have been and would still be happy if the UK decided to return to the fold. But throughout the entire process the EU have been respectful of the UK decision, crafted a WA which was agreed by the UK negotiating team,and agreed by the EU side. What more could they do?.
If anything he is annoyed by the stupidity of elected MPs. I use the term intentionally. If one continues to repeat behaviour which has not worked, has been told it will not work, then that is stupid. In fairness that is also the response you might be having with the same People.
Do you realise talking like that (telling others where to stick rheir heads) is the kind of impulsive, unthinking behaviour that caused brexit, and the crap were in
Yes, I didn't miss that, but surely he should have known that his words would create anger rather than any constructive reaction.
Those who directed Leave aren't in a position to solve the current problem, so all Tusk did was vent his personal feelings with no possibility that it would do anything but annoy.
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Personally - I'll take my place in hell before having to live a day longer under those twats. The collapse of this nasty oligarchy can’t come soon enough.
What crap? Things are going pretty much to plan so far.
Except for the £30b emergency budget and WW3 of course.