That fount of restraint, empathy,tact and wisdom?
Perish the thought!
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Perish the thought!
I notice we are missing Tillson who last posted several times in this thread on 31st December.
He'd normally have been in the wind turbines discussion, probably calling them windmills as he was wont to do.
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He'd normally have been in the wind turbines discussion, probably calling them windmills as he was wont to do.
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Following the recent discussion about energy, this site might be of some interest displaying, as it does, actual electricity sources and consumption:
https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/
https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/
Yet more wrong-doing resulting in, is this right?, a "warning"! By the Charity Commissioners.
In my book, should have charitable status removed with retrospective effect.
Rightwing thinktank breached charity law by campaigning for hard Brexit
Institute of Economic Affairs issued with legal warning over its Plan A+ Brexit document
A prominent rightwing thinktank has been accused of “misconduct and mismanagement” and issued with a formal legal warning by the Charity Commission after using its resources to campaign for a hard Brexit.
The Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA) received the formal warning from the watchdog after publishing and campaigning for its Plan A+ hard Brexit proposal document. Charities, which enjoy taxpayer support, are banned from political campaigning.
The commission, which regulates the charitable sector, said the publication was a clear attempt to campaign to influence government policy. The IEA launched Plan A+ at an event last September with endorsements from prominent pro-Brexit Conservative MPs, including the former Brexit secretary David Davis and Jacob Rees-Mogg.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/05/rightwing-thinktank-breached-charity-law-by-campaigning-for-hard-brexit
In my book, should have charitable status removed with retrospective effect.
Rightwing thinktank breached charity law by campaigning for hard Brexit
Institute of Economic Affairs issued with legal warning over its Plan A+ Brexit document
A prominent rightwing thinktank has been accused of “misconduct and mismanagement” and issued with a formal legal warning by the Charity Commission after using its resources to campaign for a hard Brexit.
The Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA) received the formal warning from the watchdog after publishing and campaigning for its Plan A+ hard Brexit proposal document. Charities, which enjoy taxpayer support, are banned from political campaigning.
The commission, which regulates the charitable sector, said the publication was a clear attempt to campaign to influence government policy. The IEA launched Plan A+ at an event last September with endorsements from prominent pro-Brexit Conservative MPs, including the former Brexit secretary David Davis and Jacob Rees-Mogg.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/05/rightwing-thinktank-breached-charity-law-by-campaigning-for-hard-brexit
The Express have started the propaganda campaign just in case there is a GE
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Fears of MASS STRIKES under a Corbyn government as McDonnell pledges trade union 'REVIVAL'
SHADOW Chancellor John McDonnell will today trigger fears of strike mayhem with a rallying cry for a surge in trade unionism if Labour wins the next General Election.
Forgetting that people actually have gained immensely over the years through the action of unions, and have the right even now to join them if they wish, despite years of right wing repression.
The Express not John Mc Donnell is in fact trying to trigger fear and as usual it will quite likely work as it usually does.
The pity is that though Unions have never damaged the wealth and well being of the people even a tiny fraction as much as Conservative Rule, this paper and others like it will never print that simple truth, they are after all simply handy propaganda organs not newspapers .
Owned by the Elite.
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Fears of MASS STRIKES under a Corbyn government as McDonnell pledges trade union 'REVIVAL'
SHADOW Chancellor John McDonnell will today trigger fears of strike mayhem with a rallying cry for a surge in trade unionism if Labour wins the next General Election.
Forgetting that people actually have gained immensely over the years through the action of unions, and have the right even now to join them if they wish, despite years of right wing repression.
The Express not John Mc Donnell is in fact trying to trigger fear and as usual it will quite likely work as it usually does.
The pity is that though Unions have never damaged the wealth and well being of the people even a tiny fraction as much as Conservative Rule, this paper and others like it will never print that simple truth, they are after all simply handy propaganda organs not newspapers .
Owned by the Elite.
I don't get this headline. I mean, is he actually welcome anywhere?
Chris Grayling not welcome in Calais, says port's chairman
Jean-Marc Puissesseau reportedly accuses transport secretary of disrespect
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/06/chris-grayling-not-welcome-in-calais-says-ports-chairman
Chris Grayling not welcome in Calais, says port's chairman
Jean-Marc Puissesseau reportedly accuses transport secretary of disrespect
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/06/chris-grayling-not-welcome-in-calais-says-ports-chairman
Jacques Gounon, the chief executive of Eurotunnel’s parent company, has said the awarding of the ferry operator contracts was “distortionary and anti-competitive” and would be a “unilateral breach not only of the concession agreement with Eurotunnel, but more widely of existing competition and state aid law”.
It has been reported that the government plans to pay a law firm £800,000 for advice in anticipation of a legal action brought by the company.
800k for advice! Wouldn't that money be better spent elsewhere? It isn't as if lawyers are dying of hunger, they aren't are they?
It never ceases to amaze me how the working public can be turned against unions. The Daily Fail portrays unions as some sort of evil enterprise working against the good of the economy and the country as a whole. What is even more amazing is the readers comments. Assuming that these comments aren't filtered so that only the "correct" opinion is published, the public seem to have bought into the anti-union rhetoric completely. They don't seem to care or realise what working conditions were like many years ago, or what struggles and sacrifices have been made in order to secure better working conditions.
Do the public honestly think that wealthy business owners would have invested in health and safety, paid sick leave and paid holidays without unions fighting for these rights? You only need to look at colliery accident reports pre-unions to see the attitude. Without exception, virtually every accident, roof falls, falling down unguarded mine shafts, run over by coal tubs etc, was put down to carelessness on the part of the deceased or crippled miner and the family left destitute. Shortly after the introduction of unions and safety inspectorates, you can see a huge shift in the outcomes of these accidents, with responsibility being placed on the mine owners and investment in safety ordered.
To add a bit of balance, modern unions have lost their way to a large extent. I think they have forgotten their purpose. My friend's wife had her contract torn up by a local authority. They literally sacked her on 31 March and offered her the same job on 01 April on less favourable terms after 27 years faithful service. Unison didn't want to know and were busily engaged in ant-fracking protests, marches against UKIP and LGBT celebrations at the time. I don't have an issue with any of this, but only if they have the resources left over once they have fully supported their members. Members rights at work should be the number one issue and that is not the case with modern unions.
The same sickening disease which has infected charities is breeding within the unions. Bosses earning more than the Prime Minister. Currently, I believe that there are over 38 union chiefs earning in excess of six figure salaries. Unacceptable. They are playing straight into the hands of the Mail and Express. Reform and re-focus on their purpose is urgently needed.
That is as near to a perfect sales pitch for Brexit as you are likely to find!another amusing titbit:
except the error (1000 x 21. = 21,000.), the rest seems perfectly believable.
And just as successful too!
Its not a good post at all. Its an outstanding one.
Perfectly sums up the situation with unions, their value and daft stance at moment. Well said.
I don't think that they filter much - it's easy for the public to buy into the anti EU rhetoric, the EU helps it very well with all the crises that it has to deal with: Greek false public accounts, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese and Irish debt, Eurozone Stability and Growth Pact (SGP), terrorist attacks in several capitals, wars in Libya and Syria, immigration in the Med etc.
Given the choice, it would take a great deal of foresight and courage to stay leave alone to join. Switzerland and Turkey have given up joining. Don't forget that we are still liable to support SGP and the ECB's firewall for years to come.
https://mol.im/a/6672133
I know its in daily mail but watch the video. It sums up why Labour and Corbyn's stance over EU is such a shambles. Nobody knows his stance on EU because he doesnt.. Or does he..??
I know its in daily mail but watch the video. It sums up why Labour and Corbyn's stance over EU is such a shambles. Nobody knows his stance on EU because he doesnt.. Or does he..??
I think JC is becoming more consistent on brexit.
He has never been hot on remaining, 7 out of 10 like he said before the vote, it's the lesser bad choice of the two.
As potential PM, he has to take into account of the 52/48.
a referendum at the moment won't be clear cut, in 2022, it would be.
I like his strategy, until then, a fresh GE is a better option.
It doesn't amaze me, the answer is that the public in general lacks a memory and only sees what's in front of its nose.
In the days of the gross abuses of workers, of course they supported unions.
But once the unions had achieved the better conditions and abolition of ill treatment, there was nothing visible left to support. The public having forgotten the evils of the past then easily fall prey to the anti-union propaganda.
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I think I have the explanation. Tillson had a flurry of posting no less than eleven times in this thread on the 31st December and then stopped.
I'm guessing that tells us what his New Year's resolution was.
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