Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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Off topic but alarming, on the radio just now the BBC announced Amazon and Apple to merge more than a trillion dollar merger. These companies are sinister

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Further to my previous post on the orchestrated, slanderous attacks on Jeremy Corbyn (post #34859), I found this elsewhere on t'interweb but I cropped it and can't remember where I saw it but the author clearly sees through the conspiracy which amounts to 'Anyone but Corbyn!'

Corbyn's Labour Party is the only hope for a different kind of government from what we have seen over the last 40 years.

'While the neoliberal cultists try to demolish the appeal of democratic socialism by brainwashing the public into thinking the lifelong anti-racist campaigner Jeremy Corbyn is a racist, just try to remember that Theresa May and the Tories were not only deporting racially profiled black British citizens on a "deport now, hear appeals later" basis, they were actually offering financial inducements to the human rights violating corporate outsourcing giants to remove as many of them as possible as quickly as possible.

We've got actual racists in government, who pushed racist policies, yet supporters of this racist regime are desperately trying to cast one of the only MPs who voted against it in 2014 as a racist.

Imagine how gullible you'd have to be to actively ignore the reality of what the government has been up to, in order to mindlessly accept the reality-reversing propaganda of the neoliberal establishment cult.'


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oldtom

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Off topic but alarming, on the radio just now the BBC announced Amazon and Apple to merge more than a trillion dollar merger. These companies are sinister
Blimey, they'll rule the world!.........oh wait! I think they pretty well do that already.

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Blimey, they'll rule the world!.........oh wait! I think they pretty well do that already.

Sent from my Apple MacBook Pro while awaiting a delivery from Amazon so I can mend my watch.:rolleyes:

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oldtom

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So Frank Field at 76 years of age has now decided to resign the Labour whip. It's simply a case of 'once a tory - always a tory'!

Field is one of a number of pink tories within the Labour ranks and is wholly untrustworthy, never attacking the abuses on working people's pensions when he was in a position to speak up, just as one example. His political support as a young man was solidly tory and he only quit the tory party over their support for apartheid in S Africa.

That was an obstacle to him being selected as a tory candidate so he looked for another route into the best club in London and stood as a Labour candidate, finally winning at Birkenhead in 1979. This extract from 'Wiki' illustrates exactly why his constituents should have removed him years ago:

Two nights before the Conservative Party leadership election in November 1990, he visited then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher at 10 Downing Street. He advised her that her time as Prime Minister was drawing to a close and that she should back John Major to take over the role. His reason for doing so was that he felt that her Conservative colleagues would not tell her straight that she could not win a leadership contest. Following this meeting, he was smuggled out of Downing Street's back door. Two days later Margaret Thatcher supported John Major for the post, and Major went on to become Prime Minister.[6]

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In the Mirror today
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Panasonic moves its European HQ from London to Amsterdam because of Brexit
It comes as experts reveal Brexit has already had an impact on British trade with exports down 15% since the referendum
Compared to what they were expected to be.
 

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So Frank Field at 76 years of age has now decided to resign the Labour whip. It's simply a case of 'once a tory - always a tory'!

Field is one of a number of pink tories within the Labour ranks and is wholly untrustworthy, never attacking the abuses on working people's pensions when he was in a position to speak up, just as one example. His political support as a young man was solidly tory and he only quit the tory party over their support for apartheid in S Africa.
Fully agreed Tom, it's good to see that I'm not alone in my views of Frank Field. I've been strongly critical of him before in this forum. He's always been self-seeking in the guise of supporting the weak, but this resignation shows his true inner nature. Not a pleasant one.
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oldtom

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In the Mirror today
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Panasonic moves its European HQ from London to Amsterdam because of Brexit
It comes as experts reveal Brexit has already had an impact on British trade with exports down 15% since the referendum
Compared to what they were expected to be.
Pheww! Just as well we don't have lots of Japanese companies in the UK or they might just be inclined to follow suit. Oh, hang on.....I think I might have that wrong!

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oldtom

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He's always been self-seeking in the guise of supporting the weak, but this resignation shows his true inner nature. Not a pleasant one.
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Yes, spot on there 'flecc' but Field is only one of a gang of career politicians bought and paid for by the friends of the tory party. Owen Smith, John Mann, Angela Eagle, Kate Hoey, Yvette Cooper, (Pantomime) Dame Margaret Hodge and Tony Benn's disappointment of a son......all bought men and women, supporting and propping up a failed tory government.

Some of that list would like to be referred to as centrists but they are nothing of the sort - they are right wing in their views and demonstrate that fact in the lobbies. They are paid to assist the tory media moguls and Conservative central office in the ongoing campaign to discredit Jeremy Corbyn.

Joesph Goebbels would be immensely proud that his MO of media manipulation and propaganda dissemination still lives on and has been honed to perfection by a fascist government.

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oldtom

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Hilary Benn's father, a decent human being and believer in equality, socialism and democracy did this. A left-wing blogger, however, seems to connect Jeremy Corbyn also with this particular deed which would be in keeping with Corbyn's history of supporting minority groups.

I cannot find a mention of Corbyn being associated with this act but I haven't looked very hard.

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oldgroaner

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ooops... can`t leave his sidekick outta this ... the delectable Home Secretary for the United Kingdom... the country cannot wait for this one..

It`s `Abacus Abbot` no less !! Heh - Heh - Heh

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Don't forget the balls up made by the actual home secretaries, and who cares about this one any way?
Is this an attempt on your part at being funny?
 
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oldgroaner

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Yeah, lets have a `protest against oppression`
So this is your kind of `protest` flecc??


1993 Warrington bombings which resulted in the deaths of two little boys out shopping for a Mother’s Day card:


Isn't it time you actually thought about what you are doing on here?
Why are you using the conflict for propaganda purposes?

I'm not a big fan of Corbyn either, but this digging up the past to attack him is disrespectful of the people involved who suffered at the time.

The troubles in Northern Ireland showed that neither side in the conflict could be said to be blame free on the Atrocity score.

This is all in the past ,peace restored, and best left to quietly pass into history
What it does not need is some biased individual to start ranting and raving over it, stirring it all up again.

Using your logic I should be up in arms about how the German's killed thousands of innocent people in my home town in the Blitz.

But that would be the act of a complete fool to do, so I won't, as the world has moved on.
This thread is about Brexit, do make an effort to post on Topic.
 

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In the Independent Frank Field had this to say
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The latest example, from last week, comes after a series of attempts by Jeremy to deny that past statements and actions by him were antisemitic.”

“Britain fought the Second World War to banish these views from our politics, but that superhuman effort and success is now under huge and sustained internal attack. The leadership is doing nothing substantive to address this erosion of our core values.

Sorry but Britain did not fight that war in order to do, think and act as the Jews determine they should
We fought that war to survive, not come under some domination from them.
And since when are Arabs not Semitic people?

Close the door after you Frank

"Mr Field has come under mounting pressure from activists in his constituency who are trying to oust him. Last month he faced a vote of no confidence from his local party."
So that's what the real problem for him is, and he needed an excuse.

He was needing a good story to curry favour and rejoin the Tory party it seems, as the chance of standing as an idependent isn't much of a prospect is it?
Another Eurosceptic leaves the ranks
 
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back to brexit, latest poll for die Welt suggests 46/41 - 5+ points lead for remainers if a second referendum is called.

A YouGov poll of more than 10,000 Britons in mid-August for die WELT, confirms an increasing uncertainty and scepticism about the ecomnomy post brexit, 46 percent of Britons today would vote for remaining in the EU and 41 percent against.
 
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