Brexit, for once some facts.

[Yamdude]

On the now rare occasions i decide to look in this thread..... it always seems to be like an extraordinary long rally in a game of gobshyte tennis, the same POV being sent back & forth and probably will do for years. Neither side is ever going to concede to the other.
So tell me, what's the point ?

 

[oldgroaner]

To a degree I guess I agree with the increased interest in politics. However, there is a difference between, say, taking an increased interest in ones health (perhaps taking up running) and blowing off ones head with a shotgun before running around like a headless chicken looking for an a&e

You are absolutely right but then what went wrong to make you vote out?

 

[derf]

You are absolutely right but then what went wrong to make you vote out?

I didn't vote out, I voted remain. Anyhieuw,as stewie Griffith's might say,it's all academic now

 

[oldgroaner]

On the now rare occasions i decide to look in this thread..... it always seems to be like an extraordinary long rally in a game of gobshyte tennis, the same POV being sent back & forth and probably will do for years. Neither side is ever going to concede to the other.
So tell me, what's the point ?

Since you have explained whats wrong, what is the reason for your question?
Here's my guess.
Since we are Muppet fans
We're doing a Waldorf and Statler Tribute event.

 

[oldgroaner]

I didn't vote out, I voted remain. Anyhieuw,as stewie Griffith's might say,it's all academic now

Ignore me I'm suffering from dementia (ask Tillson he first diagnosed it) my brain has shrunk to the size of a leave voter apologies and all that!
It's these screen names you know, as a Chinaman when asked about Europeans remarked
"Cant tell them apart, they all lookee same to me"

Would it help if I joined the other side? they could do with another crackpot by the look of their logic

 

[oldgroaner]

I didn't vote out, I voted remain. Anyhieuw,as stewie Griffith's might say,it's all academic now

Seriously derf it isnt by any means over, this is the only the introduction to a far bigger event than is visible at this time.

 

[flecc]

On the now rare occasions i decide to look in this thread..... it always seems to be like an extraordinary long rally in a game of gobshyte tennis, the same POV being sent back & forth and probably will do for years. Neither side is ever going to concede to the other.
So tell me, what's the point ?

The point is that it's a way of expressing the huge amount of distress, upset and anger that the referendum result has created, people need an outlet for high emotions. That's been energised by the large number who voted to leave but have since been worrying about the Pandora's Box they've just opened, some wishing they hadn't voted the way they did.

So the remainers express how they feel about the narrow result that many agree would probably reverse if voted on again now, and the more determined leavers fight back in defence.

We are all agreed on one thing, it's a long way from over yet.
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[tillson]

expect more of this:

A bunch of crack-pots. Just show them a bar of soap and they'll run all the way home.

 

[BrendanJ]

The point is that it's a way of expressing the huge amount of distress, upset and anger that the referendum result has created, peope need an outlet for high emotions. That's been energised by the large number who voted to leave but have since been worrying about the Pandora's Box they've just opened, some wishing they hadn't voted the way they did.

So the remainers express how they feel about the narrow result that many agree would probably reverse if voted on again now, and the more determined leavers fight back in defence.

We are all agreed on one thing, it's a long way from over yet.
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The last sentence was fine, the rest was just the usual crap we've grown to love and expect from you my friend

 

[flecc]

The last sentence was fine, the rest was just the usual crap we've grown to love and expect from you my friend

So there is no disagreement and the thread doesn't exist?

Instead of just criticising someone who offered an answer to Yamdude's question, why couldn't you have offered an alternative answer to the question if you felt mine was so wrong?

But of course that is being constructive, so perhaps something beyond you.
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[BrendanJ]

So there is no disagreement and the thread doesn't exist?

Instead of just criticising someone who offered an answer to Yamdude's question, why couldn't you have offered an alternative answer to the question if you felt mine was so wrong?

But of course that is being constructive, so perhaps something beyond you.
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Because I get fed up with you constant harping on about "the leavers", it's childish and if you can't take flac Flecc then stop doling it out. This is meant to be an intelligent forum, not some kind of schoolyard tennis match
I am quite happy to debate with the best of them in the same way they respond to me, a leaver and proud of it

 

[flecc]

Because I get fed up with you constant harping on about "the leavers", it's childish and if you can't take flac Flecc then stop doling it out. This is meant to be an intelligent forum, not some kind of schoolyard tennis match
I am quite happy to debate with the best of them in the same way they respond to me, a leaver and proud of it

I wasn't doling out any flak, I answered someone's question in an intelligent, balanced and rational manner. The flak is what you just twice posted here, both times uncalled for and unnecessary.
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[trex]

A bunch of crack-pots. Just show them a bar of soap and they'll run all the way home.

we'll see if you are correct. More than 4 millions signed the petition for a second referendum, that's a record.

 

[tillson]

we'll see if you are correct. More than 4 millions signed the petition for a second referendum, that's a record.

Very nice for them too. Just two questions:

1) Who is checking the validity of the signatures?

2) Since when did 4 million people out-vote 16 million?

Please understand, we voted out and that's what is going to happen. The petition is little more than lavatory paper.

 

[oldgroaner]

Thought for the day
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An old quote has re-emerged in an Anthony Hilton column for Thursday's Evening Standard, which may give you pause for thought as to how you voted in the EU referendum:

I once asked Rupert Murdoch why he was so opposed to the European Union. 'That’s easy,' he replied. 'When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice.'
Thank goodness for an unbiased and independent press that prints the untarnished truth.
And is continuing to do so at the very moment firing off with all guns against the EU.
Why bother? because they are afraid their supporters will realise they have been used and discarded once the vote was cast, and upset the apple cart.

 

[oldgroaner]

Very nice for them too. Just two questions:

1) Who is checking the validity of the signatures?

2) Since when did 4 million people out-vote 16 million?

Please understand, we voted out and that's what is going to happen. The petition is little more than lavatory paper.

How cute, what then does that make a referendum that has only "Advisory Status" and no legal standing?

 

[tillson]

How cute, what then does that make a referendum that has only "Advisory Status" and no legal standing?

We are leaving the EU. That was the result. End of.

 

[oldgroaner]

We are leaving the EU. That was the result. End of.

I wonder. I really do, and even if we do for how long.

 

[tillson]

I wonder. I really do, and even if we do for how long.

We're still leaving. It's happening.

 

[oldgroaner]

We're still leaving. It's happening.

Not yet it isn't! nothing has changed.
Every day that passes adds to the uncertainty as the other side is showing no sign of being willing to negotiate, and our Parliament is terrified to push the red button.
Given half a chance they will come up with reasons not to and it will gradually founder and be forgotten.
A really good sign would be if they find some new war to wage to divert public attention away from it, first adding a delay and finally in due course when enthusiasm dwindles it will evaporate.