I think he falls in the "naïve" with delusions of grandeur category
True, but it's also clearly evident that racism among the British native population was and still is a very big factor in the desire to leave the EU. Their own words have frequently shown it only too obviously, as their behaviour often does too.
Or indeed in having their decision questioned in any way, which instantly seems to provoke a hostile reaction.
I took the opportunity to follow the link to the daily express in reference to the earlier comments today. While the actual reporting is just filler material for what is the silly season in journalism, referring to an unnamed minister, the readers comments are highly revealing. It would be easy to characterise them in exactly the adjectives you have used.
Now then that's a brave assumption to make when there is evidence that they CAN be (note the word CAN) and in fact there is reported evidence.
Yes, you are obviously late to thread.
And I in turn used the word "CAN"
That's subjective at best Flecc.
Perhaps your pedantism ( is there such a word) could be directed at remainers claiming all leavers are racist ??? Think that is rather a larger claim OG ??
if you read my previous post you'll note that I in fact offered you an opportunity to climb out of the box leave voters dragged themselves into public consciousness in - by asking you to provide a reasonable justification for brexit - as opposed to the "immigration" (make that closet racism, as research on immigrants contribution to UK society prove) arguments and other manure (as spread by Boris). I note you haven't taken the opportunity. I must confess I'm not surprised. its a familiar experience when asking a leave voter to explain their vote.
I've long lost count of the number of times people being interviewed on TV and Radio have openly made racist statements in connection with Brexit.
I cant offer an explanation for the 17kk people who voted leave. The only one I can offer ( which I did, which I should not have to) is my own.
Remarkable that we created the biggest empire in world history without being racist
your patriotism is poignant, but unfortunately also misguided and deluded. confounding the decision about eu membership with patriotic fantasies about "who we are" is I think what got us into this mess.
So clear evidence and the accepted views of Lord Justice Scarman and the IPCC are unenlightened? Really! You are obviously someone who cannot see the institutional racism, despite how obvious it is.
This reply is just inexperience, the UK has had widespread areas of popularly accepted racism during my lifetime. It was once commonplace and accepted that boarding houses etc would have outside a notice saying such as "No blacks, no Irish", and for decades our society saw nothing wrong in that. Are you really trying to tell me that was not national racism?
look on the bright side, the whole brexit debacle has been transforming - for all of us. here you find yourself recognising that Hargreaves was naïve, and whether one likes it or not (and I don't) the world waking up to something of a mini right wing revolution as some aggrieved voters who don't feel part of a globalising world go reactionary. its a great deal more expensive than psychotherapy (I think), but it is a catharsis of sorts. we are all capable of racism. we all need to engage in healthy self critical self reflection to keep it in check. there is no need to leave the thread just because we're getting into our collective baggage.
