Brexit, for once some facts.

tillson

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EPIC FAIL: I can't stop laughing. That dog turd's arrogance and contempt for the public is being rewarded. I hope she doesn't resign and goes on to suffer a protracted humiliation as her political career suffers death by a thousand cuts.

The Tiny Scottish Idiot Woman also appears to be getting her comeuppance as the sensible Scotts shaft her.
 

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Don't really think its time to celebrate...Labour haven't won this election...Tories have lost it.Government and country are going to be in complete turmoil for years. Hung parliament is no good for anybody.
 

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the only way that the tories can form a new government is with the DUP.
I can't see it as 'strong and stable'.
we may have to have another election.
 
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Don't really think its time to celebrate...Labour haven't won this election...Tories have lost it.Government and country are going to be in complete turmoil for years. Hung parliament is no good for anybody.
Great fun isn't it? And what becomes of holy brexit now?
Open a window and hear the laughter coming from Brussels.
This was going to be a landslide remember?
It was meant to "strengthen her hand"
The result is no good for anybody?
Actually it couldn't be better!

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oldgroaner

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EPIC FAIL: I can't stop laughing. That dog turd's arrogance and contempt for the public is being rewarded. I hope she doesn't resign and goes on to suffer a protracted humiliation as her political career suffers death by a thousand cuts.

The Tiny Scottish Idiot Woman also appears to be getting her comeuppance as the sensible Scotts shaft her.
Top of the morning to you tillson, which idiot do you think the Tory party will foist at us next?
By the look of it we will have to ask the EU for play to be extended for more than two years to get our act together before we can fit in brexit negotiations!

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Speaking of EPIC FAILS shed a tear for the Right Wing press, who have lied, cheated smeared and tried every dirty trick in the book to discredit Corbyn.
And also share a thought for poor Boris, who fled the field after the referendum win fearing he would be in the hot seat.
From the Express
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Odds plummet on Boris Johnson being next Prime Minister as hung parliament assured
BOOKMAKERS have dramatically slashed the odds of Boris Johnson becoming the next Prime Minister.
Oh I do hope so, what could be more fitting?
"Hoisted by his own petard":cool:
 
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And now a threat from the Dark Side
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The whole of Brexit is at risk: Farage warns UK faces a second referendum"
Nigel Farage tonight vowed to make a shock return to the political front line if Jeremy Corbyn pulls off an unlikely election victory. As the completely un-predicted election results roll in, Mr Farage warned that Mr Corbyn becoming Prime Minister would set Britain on a path to a second referendum.

Do go away and make a nuisance of yourself somewhere else Nigel UKIP are finished for good
 

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it seems clear that the country has rejected hard brexit.
Ukip polled 2% - that's about right.
 
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Good old Boris (some say)
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'IT'S EARLY DAYS'
Will Theresa May resign? Boris Johnson REFUSES to back Theresa May as he becomes favourite for PM amid claims she could quit
 

oldtom

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Let me see if I have this right as I sip my morning bean-to-cup. Today, we have a PM who had no need to but chose to call an election in order to strengthen her hand. As part of her strategy to realise that ambition, she refused to take part in any meaningful debate with opposition leaders and her major slogan was 'strong and stable leadership'. That is what she told the nation repeatedly.

Okay, I despise the tory party and everything they claim to stand for but surely this election result has singularly failed to bring about the result that May wanted? It seems that the tories must now rely on others to achieve progress through parliament of any legislation they might wish to impose on the country. That to me therefore means her gambit has failed spectacularly to achieve her aim.

That being the case, surely she must now step down as the last thing the country needs right now is a leader with such flawed judgement.

As for individual results, I was a little saddened to see Alex Salmond lose his seat as he was always an intelligent orator, well able to hold his own in any political debate. On the other hand, I was delighted to see the ex-deputy PM, purely a career politician with no commitment to anything other than self-aggrandisement, lose his seat.

With just a few fairly predictable results to come in at this stage, I don't expect there to be much change so a hung parliament it is. For Theresa May, I cannot see how she can carry on but being the despicable creature she is, I fear she may attempt to ignore the will of the people and carry on. That being the case, I expect the tory party grandees to push her out as soon as they can find someone stupid enough to want the job.

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For once Davis spoke the truth
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Tories would lose mandate to leave EU single market if they lose majority, suggests Brexit Secretary
The Brexit Secretary linked the Brexit plan to a Tory majority"

Great, buzz off then!
 

oldgroaner

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Let me see if I have this right as I sip my morning bean-to-cup. Today, we have a PM who had no need to but chose to call an election in order to strengthen her hand. As part of her strategy to realise that ambition, she refused to take part in any meaningful debate with opposition leaders and her major slogan was 'strong and stable leadership'. That is what she told the nation repeatedly.

Okay, I despise the tory party and everything they claim to stand for but surely this election result has singularly failed to bring about the result that May wanted? It seems that the tories must now rely on others to achieve progress through parliament of any legislation they might wish to impose on the country. That to me therefore means her gambit has failed spectacularly to achieve her aim.

That being the case, surely she must now step down as the last thing the country needs right now is a leader with such flawed judgement.

As for individual results, I was a little saddened to see Alex Salmond lose his seat as he was always an intelligent orator, well able to hold his own in any political debate. On the other hand, I was delighted to see the ex-deputy PM, purely a career politician with no commitment to anything other than self-aggrandisement, lose his seat.

With just a few fairly predictable results to come in at this stage, I don't expect there to be much change so a hung parliament it is. For Theresa May, I cannot see how she can carry on but being the despicable creature she is, I fear she may attempt to ignore the will of the people and carry on. That being the case, I expect the tory party grandees to push her out as soon as they can find someone stupid enough to want the job.

Tom
You mean give it to most dull witted surely?
Boris it is then!
 
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tillson

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Top of the morning to you tillson, which idiot do you think the Tory party will foist at us next?
By the look of it we will have to ask the EU for play to be extended for more than two years to get our act together before we can fit in brexit negotiations!

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Theresa May is a bully. She is incapable of engaging with people, inspiring them or taking anyone with her in her in decisions. She can only make progress when all rights of redress or ability to oppose have been removed. Her track record then suggests that she goes on to make unopposed bad decisions.

No doubt, she thought Corbyn was an idiot and completely underestimated his ability, viewing him as the nerd in the playground who is ripe for bullying and exploitation. How sweet it is to see this bully being humiliated and disowned by people who only 10 hours ago were her supporters. Her ego has taken such a battering that you can see the anger seeping from within her. I can't wait to see some May baiting on TV later.

I see that Anna Soufflé is the first to desert her (ahem), sticking the knife in, ready and eager to hitch her waggon to the next gravy train which rolls into town.
 
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tillson

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it seems clear that the country has rejected hard brexit.
Ukip polled 2% - that's about right.
As a supporter of BREXIT, I think it's time to say that in the current climate, it's going nowhere. If BREXIT is going to happen, we need to do it properly and professionally and with the appropriate support.

The backdrop to the country is not good, we look indecisive and rudderless with MPs feigning support and enthusiasm for whatever topic keeps them in parliament. We can't negotiate our departure from the EU in the present climate, there is no one left with sufficient credibility to do it.

I think we will need another election within twelve months with MPs stating exactly where they stand with regard to BREXIT. It is BREXIT that has been the catalyst for the present situation and the self centred idiots in Westminster for turning it into turmoil. BREXIT is not going to go away, it needs to be slayed once and for all or acted upon and seen through to the end. BREXIT needs to be the central theme of the next General Election.
 
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oldtom

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There is much opinion (varied) in the international media about the Saudi Arabian football team refusing to show proper respect for the victims of the recent London atrocity, including an Australian in the match against Australia yesterday.

I don't accept any of the feeble excuses for that shocking lack of empathy from the Saudis but everyone needs to be aware that the evil bitch posing as our PM has previously intimated how the rich Sheikhs are one of our strongest allies and defender of our interests in the gulf.

Once again, she has demonstrated how warped her judgement is as those people are no friends of the UK and never have been.

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oldgroaner

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As a supporter of BREXIT, I think it's time to say that in the current climate, it's going nowhere. If BREXIT is going to happen, we need to do it properly and professionally and with the appropriate support.

The backdrop to the country is not good, we look indecisive and rudderless with MPs feigning support and enthusiasm for whatever topic keeps them in parliament. We can't negotiate our departure from the EU in the present climate, there is no one left with sufficient credibility to do it.

I think we will need another election within twelve months with MPs stating exactly where they stand with regard to BREXIT. It is BREXIT that has been the catalyst for the present situation and the self centred idiots in Westminster for turning it into turmoil. BREXIT is not going to go away, it needs to be slayed once and for all or acted upon and seen through to the end. BREXIT needs to be the central theme of the next General Election.
There we disagree completely.

Brexit needs to be consigned to the dustbin of History, and the Dustbin buried in a landfill site.

Considering the damage it has already done it is no more use than Trident.
 
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tillson

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There we disagree completely.

Brexit needs to be consigned to the dustbin of History, and the Dustbin buried in a landfill site.

Considering the damage it has already done it is no more use than Trident.
But to just bury it and trying to forget the referendum ever happened isn't going to solve anything. We will continue with political turmoil and people will feel betrayed. BREXIT will return stronger than before if that happens. BREXIT needs dealing with openly and either killing off or enacting through democratic process. Hiding it under the carpet isn't a solution.
 

oldtom

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I note Simon Hughes, the former MP for Bermondsey, has tweeted lovely things about Nick Clegg, calling him a 'great European'......that just serves to demonstrate how out of touch with reality the laughable demo-rats are.

Simon Hughes himself was basically a middle-of-the-road town councillor in style, rather out of his depth as an MP whose only real claim to fame was in keeping a Labour candidate out of parliament for 32 years.

No doubt we shall hear similar platitudes about Clegg from some of the other nonentities on the Westminster scene. I expect to hear something in his usual pontificating manner from Paddy, Baron (I was a soldier) Ashdown before the morning is out.

Tom
 

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think we will need another election within twelve months with MPs stating exactly where they stand with regard to BREXIT.
agreed totally.
 
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