Brexit, for once some facts.
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I am very disappointed, same old rubbish for the next five years, the only thing different will be Theresa May who will not last a year.
Does that mean that ALL Scotts are nice guys? Because not all Scots are nice guys.
I am not disappointed.
TM is severely weakened. There is no way the tories are going to let her lead them into the next GE.
In the meantime, her plan of clear and hard brexit is clearly rejected by the result of the election.
At least the City hopes so.
The proof? The Pound recovers a fair bit this afternoon.
TM is severely weakened. There is no way the tories are going to let her lead them into the next GE.
In the meantime, her plan of clear and hard brexit is clearly rejected by the result of the election.
At least the City hopes so.
The proof? The Pound recovers a fair bit this afternoon.
Watching last night you,d have thought result was decided by 11pm...Folk start to ignore polls and then one works...
Quite right. I have taken no notice of the previous by-elections, but there is a clear message from yesterdays election and the public seem to be saying, "hang on a minute, we might have been a bit hasty last June." In the same way that the result of the referendum can't be ignored, the result of yesterdays general election and what it means can't be ignored either. The country needs to find a way forward. One that will bring us together.
In her typical fashion, when May arrived back from seeing the Queen she continued with her usual pig-headed stance, giving the impression that she intends to sweep away the voice of the electorate. Not acceptable, and this is from a BREXIT voter.
We are faced with such a crisis of confidence and competence, the time is surely come to form a war time type coalition of national unity of all parties for the duration of the brexit negotiations, and possibly beyond that?
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I think you are right. Westminster is so bankrupt in terms of talent and credibility, that a cross party understanding on BREXIT might be the only way to proceed. It might make everyone, remainders & leavers, feel as though they have a stake in what happens next. That's important under current circumstances.
In some ways a minority government is a good thing, almost as good as no government at all as the Belgians found out when they went without for ages. The Civil Service ran the place just fine.
Blair allegedly banned about 3,000 things.
We just do not need all these new laws which in reality are just pandering to someone's fad.
A minority government will not be able to pass any of the stupid vanities that they dream up (Dementia Tax?). Neither will the opposition be able to enact their own idiocies.
Sadly, it will probably not last and we will be voting again within 6 to 12 months.
Blair allegedly banned about 3,000 things.
We just do not need all these new laws which in reality are just pandering to someone's fad.
A minority government will not be able to pass any of the stupid vanities that they dream up (Dementia Tax?). Neither will the opposition be able to enact their own idiocies.
Sadly, it will probably not last and we will be voting again within 6 to 12 months.
Yes, a crack team of astute negotiators from both sides.
Diane Abbott and Boris Johnson for example.
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It's called "Matrix Management" meaning that everyone gets to share the blame.Sort of "Why involve only one incompetent when half a dozen are available?"
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Joking apart, both of these people hold very senior positions in British politics. In terms of responsibility these are the top jobs in the country. And just look at the pair of them.
If I were given the chance to change our system it would simply be to make it a legal requirements that ALL Mp's elected to Office have to be part of the Government, having about half of them in opposition simply disenfranchises the people who voted for them, and they might as well go home and do a useful job under the present system.
It would be a "One Government State" where everyone is represented.
It would be a "One Government State" where everyone is represented.
Actually of the 650 plus it would probably be simpler to count the good ones on the fingers of one hand.
My preference would be for Parliament to only sit for no more than 4 weeks in a year and have a useful job in between.
Their Parliamentary salary would be a multiple of their wage, so those who take soft options in charities etc. would suffer. Those who got real jobs would be quids in.
So, am I right to understand that our political future will be in the hands of the N Irish unionists? Those people have been steadfast supporters of the tories for a very long time, indeed, they are essentially an integral part of the UK tory party.
After the 'Brexit' referendum and the way they have been ignored like the Scots and the Gibraltarians, I wonder if their loyalty will remain as staunch as previously. I should think without their total support, the tory party will be unable to govern effectively at all....not that they ever have unless you're a millionaire.
May must be hoping for a miracle now as her gamble has backfired and she is being laughed at across Europe and probably around the wider world. When Thatcher's government was struggling and losing the support of the public three years into office, she was rescued by the Falklands war, at great cost to many of our servicemen and women. Had the Falklands been invaded by China, the then USSR or even the Americans, we would never have sent a task force; we would have pleaded with the UN to mediate in diplomatic discussions.
As Argentina was, militarily, a League 1 outfit or Championship at best, she decided to go to war - the rest is history. May will be praying that somewhere like Malta declares war on the UK this week!
Tom
After the 'Brexit' referendum and the way they have been ignored like the Scots and the Gibraltarians, I wonder if their loyalty will remain as staunch as previously. I should think without their total support, the tory party will be unable to govern effectively at all....not that they ever have unless you're a millionaire.
May must be hoping for a miracle now as her gamble has backfired and she is being laughed at across Europe and probably around the wider world. When Thatcher's government was struggling and losing the support of the public three years into office, she was rescued by the Falklands war, at great cost to many of our servicemen and women. Had the Falklands been invaded by China, the then USSR or even the Americans, we would never have sent a task force; we would have pleaded with the UN to mediate in diplomatic discussions.
As Argentina was, militarily, a League 1 outfit or Championship at best, she decided to go to war - the rest is history. May will be praying that somewhere like Malta declares war on the UK this week!
Tom
The other option is for a Parliamentary Jury.
Ordinary citizens would receive a summons to Parliament and would have to go there for say 3 or 4 weeks, both sides of the house would present their arguments and the Jury would decide.
Ordinary citizens would receive a summons to Parliament and would have to go there for say 3 or 4 weeks, both sides of the house would present their arguments and the Jury would decide.