Brexit, for once some facts.

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British Mug 1940's

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Murdoch and co must be pleased with themselves!
Don't think that's a fair comment. The media are using situation but general public are dealing with it. Lots of examples of brave reactions. The guy saying he was a millwall fan and having a go on his own against assailants was one of many. People are very resilient OG, organisations less so.
 
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Given the huge similarities between the tory party and their fascist predecessors from the 1930s, one doesn't need to delve too deeply to find the tory motivation for their sustained, offensive and wicked attack on the common people.

The expression, 'Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men.' has been around a long time and is frequently attributed to the first Baron Acton, although he is not necessarily the original author.

Regardless of its origins, history shows us that there is a consistent truth in the assertion as the parallels are there to be seen in various parts of the world when one looks back over the last 100 years.

Herr Goebbels, for example, was well aware of how to utilise propaganda to ensure the common people were kept onside during the Nazi Party's rise to power and his colleague in Hitler's inner circle, Hermann Göring, explained how easy it is to control the people and ensure loyalty and obediance when he addressed the court at Nuremberg in 1946.

Most recently here in the UK, we were treated to the government's explanation of why they consider it essential to spend billions of taxpayers' money on an updated nuclear missile system, in the course of which they launched repeated attacks on Jeremy Corbyn in much the same way as the Nazis did with all forms of opposition in the 1930s.

It sometimes amuses me to listen to all these voices proclaiming with certainty that we must have nuclear weapons stockpiled in the UK, always ready to answer any nuclear attack by foreign powers. There is an irony in that a great many of those people object vehemently when consideration is given to replacing our ageing nuclear power stations. Those are the power stations dotted around the periphery of the UK, as far away from Westminster as it's possible to get, in a misinformed notion that the effects of any nuclear accident will be minimised in the major population centres.

It seems we are terrified by the inherent dangers presented by nuclear fallout but conversely, it seems like a good idea to unleash exactly that kind of warfare on other peoples....as if we will somehow remain 'strong and stable' and unaffected by such action.

In this second decade of the 21st century, isn't it time we all moved away from the politics of greed and find different ways to improve the condition of society and of the human species around the planet we share? I believe there are people around the world who can bring about that kind of change and Jeremy Corbyn is just one of that breed. For that reason, I shall be voting for Labour on the 8th June in the hope that they can unseat this nauseating bunch of inbreds before they can hammer the last few nails into the coffin of a once-great United Kingdom.

It is an extremely difficult task due to the gerrymandered constituency boundaries which unfairly favour the landowning upper class and aristocracy. That is an issue that needs to be tackled if we are to return to something approximating a democracy in the UK.

This is how Göring explained one of the fundamental tenets of fascist government:

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Don't think that's a fair comment. The media are using situation but general public are dealing with it. Lots of examples of brave reactions. The guy saying he was a millwall fan and having a go on his own against assailants was one of many. People are very resilient OG, organisations less so.
As usual you missed the point! The mug carried the intended message not the public reaction!



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A Reader Comment on Trident under a Corbyn article in the independent.
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If you're willing to launch a first-strike nuclear attack, you're not using it as a deterrent.

If you're having to launch a retaliatory nuclear attack, it hasn't worked as a deterrent.

If the biggest threat to your country is a radicalised death cult, it won't be a deterrent.

If your enemy can now more effectively (and at vastly less expense and risk) cripple your country by unleashing hordes of teenage nerds to knock out your cyber structure, it's irrelevant as a deterrent.

The “nuclear deterrent” is nothing more than a dangerous and obscenely expensive game of poker. Against opponents who either have vastly stronger hands, or are playing a different game altogether.

Paula Kirby
Inverness

Well Put...
 

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Interesting that the recent Computer chaos at Heathrow is being put down not to Equipment Failure or hacking attack but to the following.
"One person innocently and inadvertantly unplugged something"

Sorry but I can't help laugh, admittedly at the tragic humour of it all, that we rely so much on this all powerful and infallable technology that is proving it seems on a daily basis to have the defensive integrity of a "Big Girl's Blouse"

With the usual disclaimer that there is nothing about "Big Girl's blouses" (under the right circumstances) to take exception to.

One can only imagine what could happen on a Trident Submarine.....
 
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Interesting that the recent Computer chaos at Heathrow is being put down not to Equipment Failure or hacking attack but to the following.
"One person innocently and inadvertantly unplugged something"
I am not convinced by their explanation.
Firstly, you just can't walk into a data centre and have access to the UPS - In all the places I've worked, the UPS is behind locked doors.
Secondly, turning off the UPS does not cut off the power but triggers the alarm. It's not called a UPS for nothing.
Thirdly, the servers have very good PSUs, with power failure sensing, they are very unlikely killed by a 'power surge'.
 
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I am not convinced by their explanation.
Firstly, you just can't walk into a data centre and have access to the UPS - In all the places I've worked, the UPS is behind locked doors.
Secondly, turning off the UPS does not cut off the power but triggers the alarm. It's not called a UPS for nothing.
Thirdly, the servers have very good PSUs, with power failure sensing, they are very unlikely killed by a 'power surge'.
It probably means they needed a scapegoat as they have no idea what went wrong but don't want to admit it!

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As usual you missed the point! The mug carried the intended message not the public reaction!



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No OG I missed nothing. The message on the mug is out of order and wrong.

Your post makes no reference to whom the comment is intended to describe. Agreed its how media are reacting but not the public or services.
Its so easy to knock things on here with absolutely no redress; its actually part of problem in general.
There are people who have died in attempts to help others. We should be more careful with our criticisms and make sure its clear who they are aimed at.
Posting a mug with such a tastless overgeneralized comment is disrespectful, at best.
Perhaps you could enlighten us all and explain exactly who the comment is aimed at ?
General Public ?Services?Government ?Media? In effect its just a crass clever arse attempt at humour aimed at no one in particular but obviously made you smile ? Or why post it ?
Take it to your local police station,ambulance centre, or fire station and see what they think.
Posting on here is just so consequence free you can say or post anything.
 
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No OG I missed nothing. The message on the mug is our of order and wrong.
You couldn't even get that right! The message is what the media want the public to do, oh for crying out loud!

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No OG I missed nothing. The message on the mug is out of order and wrong.

Your post makes no reference to whom the comment is intended to describe. Agreed its how media are reacting but not the public or services.
Its so easy to knock things on here with absolutely no redress; its actually part of problem in general.
There are people who have died in attempts to help others. We should be more careful with our criticisms and make sure its clear who they are aimed at.
Posting a mug with such a tastless overgeneralized comment is disrespectful, at best.
Perhaps you could enlighten us all and explain exactly who the comment is aimed at ?
General Public ?Services?Government ?Media? In effect its just a crass clever arse attempt at humour aimed at no one in particular but obviously made you smile ? Or why post it ?
Take it to your local police station,ambulance centre, or fire station and see what they think.
Posting on here is just so consequence free you can say or post anything.
What is your problem? a certain level of intelligence was assumed (erroniously it would seem) by me, assuming you wouldn't imediately go into a "Holier than thou" rant in the way you did.

Take your false attitude, and put it where the sun doesn't shine, sorry but you are becoming wierder with every post.
I'll try again:

IT WAS AN ATTEMPT TO CRITICISE THE ACTIONS OF THE MEDIA IN DELIBERATELY TRYING TO CAUSE THE PUBLIC TO PANIC.
THE ORIGINAL SLOGAN ORIGINATED FROM THE GOVERNMENT OF THE DAY.
NOT FROM THE PUBLIC

In future if a post is above your level of understanding

Don't assume you do understand, jump without thinking to the wrong conclusion, making stupid smug remarks that are completely out of order.
do us all a favour and ask for clarification before engaging the keyboard while the brain is in neutral.
You were right about one thing, as it describes the post you just made
"Posting on here is just so consequence free you can say or post anything"
Which is exactly what you do, and make a fool of yourself.

If you actually read the printed words they were
Under the 1940 Mug
"British Mug 1940's"
Over the 2017 Mug
"British Mug 2017 Courtesy of the Press Coverage and Media"
And beneath it the words
"Murdoch and co must be pleased with themselves!"
Get someone to explain it, I give up!
 
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What is your problem? a certain level of intelligence was assumed (erroniously it would seem) by me, assuming you wouldn't imediately go into a "Holier than thou" rant in the way you did.

Take your false attitude, and put it where the sun doesn't shine, sorry but you are becoming wierder with every post.
You have tried OG; you have tried very hard indeed but sometimes one comes up against a lost cause. Internet trolls are soul-less creatures with little empathy for other species such as we humans. They have no sense and where there is no sense, there is no feeling.

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What is your problem? a certain level of intelligence was assumed (erroniously it would seem) by me, assuming you wouldn't imediately go into a "Holier than thou" rant in the way you did.

Take your false attitude, and put it where the sun doesn't shine, sorry but you are becoming wierder with every post.
I'll try again:

IT WAS AN ATTEMPT TO CRITICISE THE ACTIONS OF THE MEDIA IN DELIBERATELY TRYING TO CAUSE THE PUBLIC TO PANIC.
THE ORIGINAL SLOGAN ORIGINATED FROM THE GOVERNMENT OF THE DAY.
NOT FROM THE PUBLIC

In future if a post is above your level of understanding

Don't assume you do understand, jump without thinking to the wrong conclusion, making stupid smug remarks that are completely out of order.
do us all a favour and ask for clarification before engaging the keyboard while the brain is in neutral.
You were right about one thing, as it describes the post you just made
"Posting on here is just so consequence free you can say or post anything"
Which is exactly what you do, and make a fool of yourself.

If you actually read the printed words they were
Under the 1940 Mug
"British Mug 1940's"
Over the 2017 Mug
"British Mug 2017 Courtesy of the Press Coverage and Media"
And beneath it the words
"Murdoch and co must be pleased with themselves!"
Get someone to explain it, I give up!
Amazing how I,m holier than thow for criticizing a post you made saying " Keep Frightened and Carry On?"
Like I said perhaps you should qualify post explaining exactly who it is aimed at...and as normal your bigot friend came to support you.
 

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I am not convinced by their explanation.
Firstly, you just can't walk into a data centre and have access to the UPS - In all the places I've worked, the UPS is behind locked doors.
Secondly, turning off the UPS does not cut off the power but triggers the alarm. It's not called a UPS for nothing.
Thirdly, the servers have very good PSUs, with power failure sensing, they are very unlikely killed by a 'power surge'.
..They did not actually refer to the ups. A conceivable scenario would be where the individual disconnected banks of hard drives beyond the power supply and then reconnected them, thus corrupting information on a raid system. If the correct power up procedure was aborted or not implemented, then there could be rubbish written in a replicated over a number of servers. Buffers need to be flushed and reset after outages.
The explanation that it was not due to cost cutting by outsourcing IT services, however don't wash. ... It is exactly that type of institutional knowledge within an organisation that protects it from those kinds of faults.
 

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I read the story a few days ago

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/06/06/british-airways-human-error-admission-fuels-questions-airlines/

A BA spokesman said: "It was not an IT issue, it was a power supply issue. We are conducting a thorough investigation into what led to the loss of power at our data centre.

"We place a huge focus on our IT systems and have the highest levels of expertise through both our in-house teams and partner IT suppliers."
even the idea that someone pulled the plug on some raid array, I still find it difficult to believe. Raid arrays are usually housed in cages, which are located inside the raid server case. You have to switch off the power to the RAID case before you can open the case lid and have access to the drives. Switching off from the button initiates shutdown. The lid of the server cases has usually a microswitch that automatically initiates a shutdown if it is inadvertently opened. These risks are usually covered in server case designs. Even the PSU can't kill the server. They usually come with redundancy built in,
 
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