There isn't much point in trying to explain further, is there, when you have no intention of listening?
Brexit, for once some facts.
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COVID-19: '27 jabs a second' as UK marks third consecutive record day of vaccinations
In one day NHS England vaccinates the "equivalent of the entire adult populations of Liverpool, Southampton and Oxford combined".
Yep, I, m missing the point. I, d guess thankfully.
And, not a nice statistic as it points to other countries' despair. Uk has dropped to 8th in Europe with regards death rate per 1, 000,000 people. (1845)
Interestingly Gibraltar has performed almost 7 tests for every inhabitant.???
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Actually from the latest information only the ones physically able to get themselves to a vaccination centre.
There is supposed to be a home visit service, which is currently about as effective as the test and trace program
Lest we forget
And yet people voted for this dangerous nut case
And yet people voted for this dangerous nut case
From the Times
Boris Johnson repeatedly resisted a second lockdown ahead of second wave in the autumn, even after all the devastation of the previous six months. More than half all Covid deaths have happened since then.
Boris Johnson repeatedly resisted a second lockdown ahead of second wave in the autumn, even after all the devastation of the previous six months. More than half all Covid deaths have happened since then.
If you look at the ratio deaths per 100 positive cases, it has gone down a fair amount but still not enough to make me feel safe.COVID-19: '27 jabs a second' as UK marks third consecutive record day of vaccinations
In one day NHS England vaccinates the "equivalent of the entire adult populations of Liverpool, Southampton and Oxford combined".news.sky.com
Yep, I, m missing the point. I, d guess thankfully.
And, not a nice statistic as it points to other countries' despair. Uk has dropped to 8th in Europe with regards death rate per 1, 000,000 people. (1845)
Interestingly Gibraltar has performed almost 7 tests for every inhabitant.???
We still have 2% death for those tested positive, 100 deaths, 5000 cases a day. 2%.
In the last few days, there is a new 'Breton' variant in France that escapes PCR testing. This new variant shows that the virus mutates quite quickly.
All the current vaccines prepare us for the Wuhan1 spike protein, Covid can very well mutate here among those with single jab to escape the vaccine effect.
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Precisely! we should have stuck to the instructions and ordered sufficient to hold enough stock to cover the second jab on time.
And if necessary invested the money (as wasted on test and trace) to build new manufacturing facilities
But surely the deaths will correlate to infections from at least 3 weeks ago,ie when infections were much higher.... Bringing your death (%age) down.
In top of which with vaccine taking 3 weeks to affect anything, even tho we have hit approx 50% of target group, 3 weeks ago that was only around 28%...consequently any effects witnessed today would only be from under 1/3 of target group reached.
We can't assess the real inroad into reduction of figures until 3 weeks after last vaccine (or at least until a very high proportion of population has been vaccinated)
I suspect June time will be time to see advantages... Only signs of it at moment.
Its exactly why it was essential to get vaccines done quickly and it would be advantageous to do so in smallest time frame possible.
I appreciate that, but the vast majority (90+%) of those at risk of death have been vaccinated with first jab more than 3 weeks ago, so I would expect deaths going down to near zero like NZ or Australia, at least less than 1% by now (50- deaths a day).
I, m afraid that age group experience high death rate all the time,and since vaccine does not necessarily prevent infection its likely that age group (or risk group are dying with covid now and not because of it)
As I said earlier the true test will be 3 weeks after all age/risk groups are vaccinated.
Besides comments coming out of ONS don't agree with your summary.
From ONS based on figures from 2 days ago.
We won't know for a good few weeks how its going. We won't know full extent until/if/when next wave occurs.
Doesn't seem opening schools has had same effect as last September. Figures shot up around Sept 9th....
Interesting take from Ireland
‘It brought a knife to a gunfight’ – the EU’s mistakes in the battle for vaccines
The bloc should have been more cutthroat in the global commercial fight for Covid-19 jabs
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Your logic is correct. And if we had a million litres of the pure stuff, we could innoculate everyone simultaneously, and we would only have to quarantine for 3 weeks , and then another jab and the nightmare over.. but we don't.
With a potential two-month delay in our vaccination program, the gaps could extend further.
It worked fine for my neighbour. A team nipped round, jabbed her and moved on. There is bound to be the occasional isolated case where it doesn’t go to plan. Have you been affected?
The ban has made no difference other than preventing people who legally held firearms from engaging in their hobby of target shooting. There is and there always has been loads of illegal firearms in circulation. If someone wants a gun for illegal purposes, it’s still easy to get hold of one.Lest we forget
And yet people voted for this dangerous nut case
The same will happen with the inevitable third wave. He’s made it very difficult for himself by stating that the easements coming in the next few weeks are irreversible. He shouldn’t have said irreversible, if a decision to lockdown in future becomes necessary, how do you then carry that out?From the Times
Boris Johnson repeatedly resisted a second lockdown ahead of second wave in the autumn, even after all the devastation of the previous six months. More than half all Covid deaths have happened since then.
Interesting according to the Government this "Occasional" situation runs into thousands, and they don't actually know how many.
There is now talk of a New York variant which may be reinfecting people who have recently had Covid and / or been vaccinated.