Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldgroaner]

oldgroaner@oldgroaner
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This government is presiding over the greatest medical defeat we have suffered since the black death,it now wants to imprison the normal elderly for what is likely to prove the rest of their lives to protect them from it's failure to protect everyone else.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Observer has pretty good review of what happened when:

How did Britain get its response to coronavirus so wrong?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/18/how-did-britain-get-its-response-to-coronavirus-so-wrong

One sentence: The Observer has been told that at least two senior government advisers were on the brink of of quitting before Johnson switched his approach.

Perhaps it would have been better if they had quit?

Boris Johnson is the new Harold Shipman. No question about it.

 

[oldgroaner]

On a personal basis I have to say I am not at all happy with the notion that I have to pay with the loss of a single day never mind two years of my life because people were deluded enough to vote Conservative and allow this mafia anywhere near the corridors of power.
I don't have the luxury of time that I can afford to have Boris spaff up against a wall on the advice of his monkey

 

[oyster]

Ho hum.

Revealed: The UK’s “Three Stage” Exit Strategy To Ease The Coronavirus Lockdown

A "best case scenario" would see some non-essential retail shops and industries reopen in early to mid-May, further social distancing measures relaxed over the summer, but the elderly and vulnerable facing strict "shielding" restrictions lasting until a vaccine is found.

Posted on Apr 18, 2020, 7:46:18 AM GMT
https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/alexwickham/coronavirus-uk-lockdown-three-stage-exit-plan

 

[flecc]

i did a week in hospital last year i had to go home as id starve to death it is steamed slop time you get it and stone cold.

My hospital food experiences are two in early life, one pre NHS state hospital and one NHS hospital,

That's why my four hospital experiences in late life have been in private hospital with food I could look forward to.
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[flecc]

72.4kg atm

That's nearly 10 kilos more than me Fatty!
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[flecc]

BRITONS aged 70 and over could be required to remain in coronavirus lockdown until autumn of 2021 according to a senior Conservative.

He's wrong anyway, we are not in lockdown so can't remain in it.

The rules are very clear. It is only the over 70's with coronavirus symptoms who should go into lockdown isolation. The rest of us can go out to exercise and shop like everyone else and have been doing so lawfully.
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[Barry Shittpeas]

On a personal basis I have to say I am not at all happy with the notion that I have to pay with the loss of a single day never mind two years of my life because people were deluded enough to vote Conservative and allow this mafia anywhere near the corridors of power.
I don't have the luxury of time that I can afford to have Boris spaff up against a wall on the advice of his monkey

It's pretty much the same in all countries in Europe at the moment, but our clowns have made matters worse than they should have been. The UK did have more warning of what was heading our way and we should have been on the front foot. But as usual, we ended up on the back foot because of stupidness and incompetence.

If the lockdown is eased, I won't be venturing far either and I'm mid fifties, no health conditions and very much fitter than many people twenty years younger than me. The end of the lockdown will likely coincide with Johnson's return. It will be presented as a victory, as though Johnson has defeated the Coronavirus. Johnson will be portrayed as reaching an armistice with the virus and the idiot population will buy it. The Tories will be under immense pressure from their paymasters to get the cash registers in pubs, clubs and tat shops ringing again, signalling the cash starting to flow back into their pockets. make no mistake, this is a purely greed and money driven initiative, nothing to do with health.

By the time the lockdown ends, we will probably be back where we were at the beginning of March in terms of casualties / day. The idiot population will flock to Weatherspoons, cinemas, and all the other places they don't need to be. I cannot think of any reason why the death toll will not shoot up again, back to where we are now, or higher, within a few weeks of the lockdown ending. I think it's almost certain that will happen and I don't intend being part of it.

I don't think a solution to ending the lockdown exists.

 

[oyster]

Krishnan Guru-Murthy@krishgm
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Michael Gove just told Sky News there are “one or two” things in the Sunday Times article that are “off beam”- and said a more detailed response to the allegations will be issued later today.


Replying to @krishgm and @brexit_sham
oldgroaner @oldgroaner
What evasive excuses are this crummy excuse of a politician and the staff of the American UK fifth columnists going to foist on us next?

Whereas the Observer (and other) articles are entirely right in their damning allegations.

 

[oldgroaner]

It's pretty much the same in all countries in Europe at the moment, but our clowns have made matters worse than they should have been. The UK did have more warning of what was heading our way and we should have been on the front foot. But as usual, we ended up on the back foot because of stupidness and incompetence.

If the lockdown is eased, I won't be venturing far either and I'm mid fifties, no health conditions and very much fitter than many people twenty years younger than me. The end of the lockdown will likely coincide with Johnson's return. It will be presented as a victory, as though Johnson has defeated the Coronavirus. Johnson will be portrayed as reaching an armistice with the virus and the idiot population will buy it. The Tories will be under immense pressure from their paymasters to get the cash registers in pubs, clubs and tat shops ringing again, signalling the cash starting to flow back into their pockets. make no mistake, this is a purely greed and money driven initiative, nothing to do with health.

By the time the lockdown ends, we will probably be back where we were at the beginning of March in terms of casualties / day. The idiot population will flock to Weatherspoons, cinemas, and all the other places they don't need to be. I cannot think of any reason why the death toll will not shoot up again, back to where we are now, or higher, within a few weeks of the lockdown ending. I think it's almost certain that will happen and I don't intend being part of it.

I don't think a solution to ending the lockdown exists.

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As you read the devastating Sunday Times piece and listen to the slipperiness of Murdoch's anointed one, the sycophantic Gove, telling you that Johnson "is in cheerful spirits, he's recovering well, he's absolutely on top of things" remember what he's really like...


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What will happen is another stunt: the only acceptable way to end the lockdown is mass vaccination How long before one of the clowns suggests saying they have a vaccine and using an existing flu vaccine with a new label?

 

[oyster]

Johnson "is in cheerful spirits, he's recovering well, he's absolutely on top of things"

Another plank of Project Fear! Oh NO!!!!! Johnson might come back....

 

[wheeler]

That's nearly 10 kilos more than me Fatty!
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Of course it could be that you are also known as Short Arse.

 

[flecc]

Of course it could be that you are also known as Short Arse.

I've certainly shrunk a bit from my average height days of younger years, plus average heights are still rapidly increasing.

In the most recent decades it baffles me that tall teenagers who could rival a broomstick end up little more than a decade later with barrel bodies and pot bellies.
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[wheeler]

I've certainly shrunk a bit from my average height days of younger years, plus average heights are still rapidly increasing.

In the most recent decades it baffles me that tall teenagers who could rival a broomstick end up little more than a decade later with barrel bodies and pot bellies.
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When I started work the NCB weighed me and measured my height as 5'9", I stated this to be my height from then on.
50 years later when buying my current e-bike I thought I should have my height checked and I am now only 5'7".
I've never had any similarity to a broomstick.

 

[flecc]

When I started work the NCB weighed me and measured my height as 5'9", I stated this to be my height from then on.
50 years later when buying my current e-bike I thought I should have my height checked and I am now only 5'7".
I've never had any similarity to a broomstick.

Similar to me except the last sentence. As a kid my nickname in the family was "tinribs", all of my ribs standing out and looking a bit like a xylophone. I could have been a good stand in for the Belsen photos.

But I had a prodigious appetite and would routinely eat two whole platefuls of any meal whenever available. This baffled my parents since they wondered where it was all going with my three inches or so between front of abdomen and rear of spine never increasing!
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[oldgroaner]

Interest tweet
"A few days ago, anyone who dared to criticise Johnson for his handling of #Covid19UK was shouted down as he’s ill. Today, everyone’s gleefully piling in. Why? Murdoch has decreed it’s okay to do so with the attack piece in the Sunday Times.

 

[oyster]

Interest tweet
"A few days ago, anyone who dared to criticise Johnson for his handling of #Covid19UK was shouted down as he’s ill. Today, everyone’s gleefully piling in. Why? Murdoch has decreed it’s okay to do so with the attack piece in the Sunday Times.

I too have been wondering. Did the ST know about the Observer piece? Or vice versa?

Perhaps because the Sunday Telegraph reported:
Prime Minister Boris Johnson has begun issuing orders to ministers as he recovers from coronavirus, the Sunday Telegraph reports. The paper says Mr Johnson has started to "take back control" from the Chequers country residence, where he is recuperating. The PM has made a series of calls to First Secretary of State Dominic Raab and senior aides, the paper says.

(Just how can he be in a position to issue orders when the last we had heard was he wasn't reading his red boxes?)

But if he is back, at all, he has declared himself the legitimate target of all anger.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

In the most recent decades it baffles me that tall teenagers who could rival a broomstick end up little more than a decade later with barrel bodies and pot bellies.

‘That could have been me. I was always very skinny as a teenager and into my mid twenties. Then I started to increase my weight quite rapidly, but took action before I got fat. Since then I’ve found running a great way to control my weight. I more or less eat whatever I want and burn it off by adjusting how much running I do. That’s ok whilst ever my limbs can stand it, but no twinges for the last 30 years, so I’m hoping to be like Doug in our running club, 82 and still going strong.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

I’ve just read the “leaked” government strategy to end lockdown in The Mail. It seems like over 70s are being abandoned and they can stay locked down for a couple of years. (Good luck with that).

What is very puzzling is the fact that the wearing of a face mask in public and office environments seems to be a central and key part of the strategy. Now why would you make the wearing of face masks compulsory when you have stated repeatedly, on record, that they offer no or very little benefits? I can only think that they were lying to make demand fit supply, yet again.

*****

 

[Danidl]

It's pretty much the same in all countries in Europe at the moment, but our clowns have made matters worse than they should have been. The UK did have more warning of what was heading our way and we should have been on the front foot. But as usual, we ended up on the back foot because of stupidness and incompetence.

If the lockdown is eased, I won't be venturing far either and I'm mid fifties, no health conditions and very much fitter than many people twenty years younger than me. The end of the lockdown will likely coincide with Johnson's return. It will be presented as a victory, as though Johnson has defeated the Coronavirus. Johnson will be portrayed as reaching an armistice with the virus and the idiot population will buy it. The Tories will be under immense pressure from their paymasters to get the cash registers in pubs, clubs and tat shops ringing again, signalling the cash starting to flow back into their pockets. make no mistake, this is a purely greed and money driven initiative, nothing to do with health.

By the time the lockdown ends, we will probably be back where we were at the beginning of March in terms of casualties / day. The idiot population will flock to Weatherspoons, cinemas, and all the other places they don't need to be. I cannot think of any reason why the death toll will not shoot up again, back to where we are now, or higher, within a few weeks of the lockdown ending. I think it's almost certain that will happen and I don't intend being part of it.

I don't think a solution to ending the lockdown exists.

I do think a solution to the lockdown exists. It always did. It is called testing. You continue the lockdown until the number of clusters is small and the rates of new infection dropping rapidly ..and you know that by testing . Then every new case identified gets the full contract tracing protocol and isolation for the required period . Then the numbers get really small. I think that the football season is a washout.. but that's of little importance. But restaurants ,take aways etc can start up. People wearing masks on surface transport.. but only when testing is quick and sure.