Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldgroaner]

Led by donkeys have done it again
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/led-by-donkeys-nhs-message-houses-of-parliament-boris-johnson-1-6611341?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social_Icon&utm_campaign=in_article_social_icons

It really is long past the time for the Cabinet to be arrested and replaced as a menace to society

 

[oldgroaner]

China owns the world. I don’t think any country could function as we know it today without stuff made by a Chink.

My morning tweet
oldgroaner@oldgroaner

What is quite clear from Raab's remarking there is no going back to business with China, is that the Government wants us to buy from America goods rebranded by them but actually manufactured in China, and you have to wonder what inducements there are to do that.

 

[Woosh]

Lets see them lie their way out of this


Quite simply I want to see those responsible put on trial for either criminal negligence, or perhaps crimes against humanity.
They have killed thousands of our own people.

and they knew it.
It's their choice of herd immunity strategy that led to those decisions.

 

[wheeler]

The latest proposal to make office staff wear them reinforces my suspicions. Why would you do that if they supposedly offer no protection?

They don't offer zero protection but are not required where social distancing is adhered to. (WHO).
In situations where social distancing can't be assured then masks provide some protection but like all PPE are a last resort in risk control and mitigation.

The WHO is also concerned that the widespread use of masks gives a false sense of security causing people to neglect the more important measures of hygiene and social distancing.

Given the number of "professionals" I see on TV who aren't wearing their masks correctly, I doubt if the great British public can be trusted to use them properly and to best effect.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Has anyone seen the article in The Guardian from a whistleblower at a Coronavirus testing facility. Staff are being sent home early because of a shortage of work.

What the hell is this government doing? If we are generous and grant them a bit of slack at the beginning, we can’t do that now, we are weeks into this crisis and are no further forwards. This is a crime.

And on top of this, they are still heading for a no deal Brexit. The extension needs to be granted before the end of June.

 

[Woosh]

I much prefer compulsory masks when we go inside shops, postoffices and public transports.
Masks are better with than without.

 

[oyster]

They don't offer zero protection but are not required where social distancing is adhered to. (WHO).
In situations where social distancing can't be assured then masks provide some protection but like all PPE are a last resort in risk control and mitigation.

The WHO is also concerned that the widespread use of masks gives a false sense of security causing people to neglect the more important measures of hygiene and social distancing.

Given the number of "professionals" I see on TV who aren't wearing their masks correctly, I doubt if the great British public can be trusted to use them properly and to best effect.

Probably still a better effect than no masks at all.

With the best will in the world, and much effort by many, social distancing is a very uncertain measure. We've seen the two-metre rule 100% demonstrated to be inadequate in a coach in China.

Partner just did Tesco. (Apparently somewhat less officious than last time.) Lucky timing - no queue for her but within minutes it was around 200 metres long. Her observation was that there were a number of people inside failing to abide by the requirements/guidance. And the majority of them were older men. (I know she would have said whatever she saw - this is not based on "men are bad".)

She wore her self-made mask.

I did the butcher's shop. Only one person could get into the shop as it was blocked off. I wore my mask (made by partner). Very civilised and friendly. And plenty of mince and sausages, etc.

Anyone else noticed the one pint containers of milk are unobtainabl? Well, except for the butcher's shop!

 

[oyster]

Has anyone seen the article in The Guardian from a whistleblower at a Coronavirus testing facility. Staff are being sent home early because of a shortage of work.

What the hell is this government doing? If we are generous and grant them a bit of slack at the beginning, we can’t do that now, we are weeks into this crisis and are no further forwards. This is a crime.

And on top of this, they are still heading for a no deal Brexit. The extension needs to be granted before the end of June.

I posted about it!

 

[oldgroaner]

This is quite simply insane

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1250913816977854471

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

A brighter story. I’ve just seen my friend who is a respiratory nurse at a major hospital. She says that they are quieter than usual on the ward. They can only put this down to their regulars staying close to their homes, taking a bit more exercise and most of all, reduced air pollution.

There may be something in it.

 

[oyster]

A brighter story. I’ve just seen my friend who is a respiratory nurse at a major hospital. She says that they are quieter than usual on the ward. They can only put this down to their regulars staying close to their homes, taking a bit more exercise and most of all, reduced air pollution.

There may be something in it.

Unfortunately, another possibility springs unbidden to mind.

 

[Nev]

My wife is a front line NHS worker, she came home from work yesterday feeling under the weather. As evening went on she started to feel worse, displaying many of the covid symptoms, aches and pains, head ache temp rise etc.

She had a good nights sleep and felt a lot better this morning but still did not feel right. She spoke to her line manager first thing today on the phone and was told not to come into work and that a virus test would be arranged for her as soon as possible.

She is being tested this afternoon, we are lucky we have a test centre 5 mins drive from our house. She should get the results either Sunday or Monday. There are three of us in the household so we wont be going out until she has the results. Obviously if the test is positive then we wont be going out for 14 days. We are fortunate we have close family members living close by that can drop off fresh milk and bread etc for us, and we probably have around a months supply of non fresh food.

I have been sleeping in a spare bedroom since the virus outbreak kicked off as we both thought there was a fair chance she would catch the disease. If she has got it though because its so contagious then I probably already have it but I'm currently feeling fine.

If I had to put money on it then I don't think she has the virus but has something else instead. Her and her colleagues are under an extreme amount of pressure at the moment, and so any kind of bug that makes you feel a bit unwell its going to cause you a lot of concern and your going to think you have the virus.

I shall update the thread when she gets the results of her test.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

This is quite simply insane

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1250913816977854471

I think I spotted paramedics and firefighters in the crowd as well as the fuzz. What are they thinking? I can’t begin to fathom an explanation.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

My wife is a front line NHS worker, she came home from work yesterday feeling under the weather. As evening went on she started to feel worse, displaying many of the covid symptoms, aches and pains, head ache temp rise etc.

She had a good nights sleep and felt a lot better this morning but still did not feel right. She spoke to her line manager first thing today on the phone and was told not to come into work and that a virus test would be arranged for her as soon as possible.

She is being tested this afternoon, we are lucky we have a test centre 5 mins drive from our house. She should get the results either Sunday or Monday. There are three of us in the household so we wont be going out until she has the results. Obviously if the test is positive then we wont be going out for 14 days. We are fortunate we have close family members living close by that can drop off fresh milk and bread etc for us, and we probably have around a months supply of non fresh food.

I have been sleeping in a spare bedroom since the virus outbreak kicked off as we both thought there was a fair chance she would catch the disease. If she has got it though because its so contagious then I probably already have it but I'm currently feeling fine.

If I had to put money on it then I don't think she has the virus but has something else instead. Her and her colleagues are under an extreme amount of pressure at the moment, and so any kind of bug that makes you feel a bit unwell its going to cause you a lot of concern and your going to think you have the virus.

I shall update the thread when she gets the results of her test.

I hope all of you are ok. It sounds like you have support on hand, which is good.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Unfortunately, another possibility springs unbidden to mind.

Yes, they could be too frightened to go near a hospital in case they catch Coronavirus whilst there, or they have already fallen victim and are in the Government’s hidden numbers.

 

[oyster]

Yes, they could be too frightened to go near a hospital in case they catch Coronavirus whilst there, or they have already fallen victim and are in the Government’s hidden numbers.

It was, primarily, the second suggestion that appeared in my mind.

 

[flecc]

Given the number of "professionals" I see on TV who aren't wearing their masks correctly, I doubt if the great British public can be trusted to use them properly and to best effect.

Wait 'til the teens start wearing masks.

Judging by their back to front baseball cap fashion, they'll probably wear the face mask on the crown of their heads like a Jewish kippah (skull cap).
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[oldgroaner]

 

[oldgroaner]

Fiona Lichfield #FBPE #stopthecoup

Re Conservative voters

@FionaLichfield
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Just misled and gullible. A lot of them believe the best in people & that surely a Gvt wouldn't deliberately harm their own people. We should not belittle them, but show them nicely that they were conned and it's OK to change their mind.


Replying to @FionaLichfield and @derekjames150

oldgroaner@oldgroaner
The problem is they don't learn, do they? any criticism simply nails the lid on their canned preconceptions. the difficulty for them comes from being assured that they cannot be wrong....ever....by the gutter press and gutter politicians

 

[wheeler]

Anyone else noticed the one pint containers of milk are unobtainabl? Well, except for the butcher's shop!

Our milkman delivers ours, glass or plastic along with orange juice and eggs.