Or all dead in their beds at home?
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Obviously we all wish that she and you and the family come out of this OK, keep us posted!
Happened across the flu vaccination page for NHS England for 2019:
What happened last year?
Last winter, 5,505 people were reported hospitalised because of confirmed flu in a network of 24 trusts in England. 3,157 people were admitted to an Intensive Care Unit or High Dependency Unit as a result of confirmed flu across all of the UK during the 2018/19 flu season, of whom 312 died.
In 2018/19, there were an estimated 1,692 deaths associated with flu.
https://publichealthmatters.blog.gov.uk/2019/10/04/flu-vaccination-the-main-things-to-know-about-the-2019-programme/
Anyone still claiming that covid-19 is no worse than a typical flu?
What happened last year?
Last winter, 5,505 people were reported hospitalised because of confirmed flu in a network of 24 trusts in England. 3,157 people were admitted to an Intensive Care Unit or High Dependency Unit as a result of confirmed flu across all of the UK during the 2018/19 flu season, of whom 312 died.
In 2018/19, there were an estimated 1,692 deaths associated with flu.
https://publichealthmatters.blog.gov.uk/2019/10/04/flu-vaccination-the-main-things-to-know-about-the-2019-programme/
Anyone still claiming that covid-19 is no worse than a typical flu?
I would agree. The concern I have is confined spaces ,which will not have much visible or UV light, and more humidity .Under those conditions, the virus remains viable for longer, and the dispersion as a cube of the separation approximation fails. But for a person walking down a semi deserted street, they are just an encumbrance.
In the BUSINESS section!
FTSE 100 boosted by optimism over potential coronavirus drug
Stock index up more than 3% in early trading on the back of hopes for remdesivir treatment
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/ftse100-optimism-potential-coronavirus-drug-remdesivir
FTSE 100 boosted by optimism over potential coronavirus drug
Stock index up more than 3% in early trading on the back of hopes for remdesivir treatment
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/ftse100-optimism-potential-coronavirus-drug-remdesivir
Barry would agree that they should take their COVID19 home inside their face mask and give it a good wash.
I agree things look bad, but when I tryWe are certainly world leaders thanks to Boris and co
Leaders in avoidable deaths, unfortuntely
Wife had the test this afternoon. The nurse put a swab down the back of her throat and swirled it around for about 15 seconds. It made her gag a bit but was not as bad as she was expecting. They will phone through the results in around 48 to 72 hours.
I am not sure but I think the testing procedure was a lot worse when it first began, I am sure I read that they put something up your nose as well as down the back of your throat. I think that was the procedure Trump had for his first test, but the second test he had was just the back of the throat swab.
I am a little less confident in my assumption that she hasn't got the virus, as she has started to feel poorly once again and her temperature is up a bit. She had felt a lot better this morning, but now says she is back to how she felt last night.
I am not sure but I think the testing procedure was a lot worse when it first began, I am sure I read that they put something up your nose as well as down the back of your throat. I think that was the procedure Trump had for his first test, but the second test he had was just the back of the throat swab.
I am a little less confident in my assumption that she hasn't got the virus, as she has started to feel poorly once again and her temperature is up a bit. She had felt a lot better this morning, but now says she is back to how she felt last night.
There were issues with some of the swabs not picking up properly. Therefore changes were made. I think some were pretty unreliable.
All the best to you all.
Even if he is wrong, that these things cannot actually happen., it is absolutely right to consider them. To allow public consideration and scrutiny. Now. Before the decisions are made.
The Welsh government has announced a string of initiatives it is taking as it works towards a lockdown exit.
The first minister Mark Drakeford said the Labour-led administration was looking forward “carefully and cautiously” to the future.
Drakeford said the next three weeks would be used to plan ahead to prepare for an easing of lockdown. He said:
He set out six initiatives that will be undertaken in the next three weeks:
The Welsh government has announced a string of initiatives it is taking as it works towards a lockdown exit.
The first minister Mark Drakeford said the Labour-led administration was looking forward “carefully and cautiously” to the future.
Drakeford said the next three weeks would be used to plan ahead to prepare for an easing of lockdown. He said:
Drakeford said he favoured a UK-wide lockdown. But he added:
He set out six initiatives that will be undertaken in the next three weeks:
- Establish objective measures across the UK that will inform when it is safe to ease the lockdown. Drakeford said this should be done early in this three week period.
- Put in place public health surveillance to spot localised new outbreaks after the exit.
- Further strengthen the NHS.
- Set up criteria for lifting individual restrictions: for example, can a particular easing be policed, can it be rapidly reversed if necessary?
- Continue to learn from international experience.
- Draw in expertise from outside government to challenge thinking and bring in new ideas.
Do you think that Boris sycophants would be able to self-identify and self-isolate?
I suspect some have a hard job understanding the word "Boris" , let alone "syco..."
Have you seen the Johnson fairytale?
Boris Johnson and coronavirus: the inside story of his illness
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/boris-johnson-and-coronavirus-inside-story-illness
We discussed how they were lying to us. Ludicrous, in my view, that we seemed to understand much of this story despite no special information hotlines. They weren't fooling us. Why do it and undermine whatever scant trust we might have had?
Boris Johnson and coronavirus: the inside story of his illness
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/boris-johnson-and-coronavirus-inside-story-illness
We discussed how they were lying to us. Ludicrous, in my view, that we seemed to understand much of this story despite no special information hotlines. They weren't fooling us. Why do it and undermine whatever scant trust we might have had?
A new report from the Imperial group. I haven't read or even skimmed it yet.
www.imperial.ac.uk
Report 15 - Strengthening hospital capacity for the COVID-19 pandemic
Report 15 - Strengthening hospital capacity for the COVID-19 pandemic
www.imperial.ac.uk
That was short lived. Didn’t take us long to get back to the happiness.
The Economist
@TheEconomist
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Apr 12
If covid-19 has spread faster than commonly thought, it must be less deadly https://econ.trib.al/n5kP4rC
oldgroaner@oldgroaner
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@TheEconomist
Except of course for the thousands who are dead already, and those about to die in the near future. What blithering idiot wrote this nonsense? obviously a rank Tory worried how much saving lives is costing, this sounds like something Cummings has come out with
@TheEconomist
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Apr 12
If covid-19 has spread faster than commonly thought, it must be less deadly https://econ.trib.al/n5kP4rC
oldgroaner@oldgroaner
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@TheEconomist
Except of course for the thousands who are dead already, and those about to die in the near future. What blithering idiot wrote this nonsense? obviously a rank Tory worried how much saving lives is costing, this sounds like something Cummings has come out with
@IanByrneMP
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In the week of 31st anniversary of Hillsborough, it’s disgusting to see @Johnrashton47 - who did much to expose Hillsborough lies - being targeted for telling the truth over Government Covid-19 failings. We must unite against Establishment blameshifting. https://liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-professor-critical-government-coronavirus-18107515?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
oldgroaner @oldgroaner
Glory Be! Boris and co are taking lessons from the Chinese in suppressing the truth,who knows,will they will try sending the professor to a camp for political re-education next?
Amazing what Conservative loonies will stoop to.
Yesterday, I posted crude death rates based on government numbers. I have just recalculated using today's numbers. They are worse.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk
| Thursday | 16/04/2020 | ||||
| Country | 2018 population | Total cases | Deaths | % deaths | Cases / pop |
| England | 55,977,178 | 76,371 | 11,656 | 15.3% | 0.14% |
| Northern Ireland | 3,138,631 | 2,088 | 134 | 6.4% | 0.07% |
| Scotland | 5,438,100 | 6,748 | 615 | 9.1% | 0.12% |
| Wales | 3,138,631 | 6,118 | 463 | 7.6% | 0.19% |
67,692,540 | 91,325 | 12,868 | 14.1% | 0.13% | |
| Friday | 17/04/2020 | ||||
| Country | 2018 population | Total cases | Deaths | % deaths | Cases / pop |
| England | 55,977,178 | 83,474 | 13,133 | 15.7% | 0.15% |
| Northern Ireland | 3,138,631 | 2,338 | 158 | 6.8% | 0.07% |
| Scotland | 5,438,100 | 7,409 | 779 | 10.5% | 0.14% |
| Wales | 3,138,631 | 6,645 | 506 | 7.6% | 0.21% |
67,692,540 | 99,866 | 14,576 | 14.6% | 0.15% | |
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk
From the shift in language being used, I think I can see where the testing debacle is heading. They are starting to talk in terms of “Testing Capacity” not tests performed. That idiot Sharma has just said that it’s important that people in social care take up the tests. This is paving the way for them to say they have the capacity to perform 100000 tests / day, but people aren’t taking them, when they fail at the end of the month.