I've slept under cardboard and similar things. The worst problem is not the water. Instead, it's the things that are alive and free to roam.
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Brexit, for once some facts.
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Interesting comment. I can't say that Tories ever bothered me when I was asleep or trying to sleep because I always did it where there were no other people. You know slugs don't have politics, right?
It's about consent. Salmond, allegedly, acted without. Mackay, evidently and legally, with. Dont let homophobia cloud your perspective.
I dont, for the record, think grooming 16 year olds is good or appropriate. It has a lot in common with winning a referendum with blatant lying to seduce the limited and vulnerable - and claiming it a wonderful victory. I'd have thought a brexit voter like you would understand Mackay's ethics.
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Nothing to do with homophobia my friend. This government minister was making preparations to fukc a child.
For some reason, it doesn’t surprise me that you are trying to defend him by introducing diversions such as homophobia. Classic lefty tactics.
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I see that you have added further text to your post since I replied. You are coming across as a bit of a Peado. You might want to rethink your words.
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Indeed,
Well I really can't see that when the chart is clearly marked MALE age of consent
That child was an adult over the age of consent, and what the hell has this to do with Lefty tactics? sometimes you come out with utter tripe, and effectively you are accusing people who don't suffer from the same right wing view point as you of being perverts.
This is quite simply a perverted view, and you should be ashamed of expressing it, however allowance has to be made since Brexit has made such sinister attitudes feel empowered to creep out from under their stones into the mainstream, hasn't it?
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But 'twas the case until fairly recently even in the UK. Males could have sex with females, AoC =16. But with males, AoC = 18.
You seem to be speaking from personal experience of this phenomenon,or are you just repeating propaganda "parrot fashion"?
Allow me to kill this off
https://www.fpa.org.uk/factsheets/law-on-sex
THE AGE OF CONSENT FOR SEX
ENGLAND AND WALES
The age of consent to any form of sexual activity is 16 for both men and women. The age of consent is the same regardless of the gender or sexual orientation of a person and whether the sexual activity is between people of the same or different gender.
It is an offence for a person aged 18 or over to have any sexual activity with a person under the age of 18 if the older person holds a position of trust (for example a teacher or social worker) as such sexual activity is an abuse of the position of trust.
The Sexual Offences Act 2003 provides specific legal protection for children aged 12 and under who cannot legally give their consent to any form of sexual activity. There is a maximum sentence of life imprisonment for rape, assault by penetration, and causing or inciting a child to engage in sexual activity.
SCOTLAND
The age of consent to any form of sexual activity is 16 for both men and women, so that any sexual activity between an adult and someone under 16 is a criminal offence. The age of consent is the same regardless of gender or sexual orientation.
Which is entirely legal with consent.
Of course you are being homophobic in selecting this incidence of a male to male relationship, trying to infer that a potential legal act is both wrong and indecent when it isn't.
That something is politically unacceptable is irrelevant, politics has its own set of grossly distorted morals. The Sun was clearly setting up a sting to exploit public bigotry.
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A senior government minister engaging in preparatory acts to **** a boy of 16 isn't acceptable. Only in the mind of the perverse could this be defended.
I see that you have added further text to your post since I replied. You are coming across as a bit of a Peado. You might want to rethink your words.
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Trying to smear me has a lot in common with what you and more unscrupulous parts of the press are trying to do to Mackay. That's right wing tactics, goebels I think would approve
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Trying to smear me has a lot in common with what you and more unscrupulous parts of the press are trying to do to Mackay. That's right wing tactics, goebels I think would approve
Nonsense, you seem to be confusing the meanings of defend and support. Support in this instance might be thought perverse by some, but it's entirely proper to defend against obvious bigotry.
The law is where it is for good reasons, reached after many re-examinations and gradual changes. And it's proved to be correct in this case, since the 16 year old warned the Minister not to try anything, showing he had both awareness of the potential outcome and the capacity to defend himself.
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When a thing is legally permitted there is nothing to defend.
What is indefensible is the right wing smear campaign by the sun, and the bigots who support it
The law is quite simple and yet you have a problem, now that is a typical Right wing idea, isn't it?
I believe that many 16 year olds are not capable of identifying their sexuality. It's a massive decision at a very confusing stage of a persons development. Some may be decided, but certainly a significant number are not and are confused.
If a confused 16 year old boy has the 42 year old Scottish Finance Minister wanting to give him one up the arse, and flattering him with hundreds of complimentary messages, he may be impressed, influenced or coerced by his status into making a poor decision. This is likely to be a decision that he could regret, or at worst, a decision which may damage him.
Mackay clearly knew what he was doing regardless of whether it was some form of sting or not. Mackay was telling the boy to delete the flattering comments that he had sent to him. So why would he do that if everything was normal? The reason he told the boy to delete the messages was because he knew his behaviour was wrong. Mackay thought there was a slice of risk free young arse on offer, so he went for it, thinking he could get away with it. It's as dirty and as simple as that.
My view is that if two people love each other, that is a good thing regardless of whether they are of the same sex or of different sexes. Much better that people love rather than hate. Mackay doesn't fit into any part of this statement. He is a predator who uses his status to procure sex with juveniles.
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The lad turned down his advances, why are you getting so worked up about this?
I wouldn’t say that I’m worked up. Just countering those who seek to “normalise” Mackay’s behaviour.
You really are decades out of date, everything you just typed fitted well over half a century ago, but not today. We've long been in an era of universal progressive sex eduation from quite young ages and todays young have their sexual identity sorted before reaching 16 years old.
Today's kids even at 12 years old are so worldly wise that they take to large stages and lecture world leaders on matters of public concern. But that also met with disapproval from you, again showing how you are living in a past era.
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