Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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I'm sorry, my mistake, I must have mis-heard the news.

Could you point me in the direction of the article which confirms that he was found guilty and impeached? Cheers.
You often do, so that isn't surprise, justice doesn't work when two things happen
  1. A jury that refuses to allow evidence from witnesses
  2. A majority of those who sit in judgement who are in leauge with the miscreant, and from the same corrupt party.
You are as usual being silly just to provoke an argument aren't you?
Jolly good, very droll, great humour, but stupid. :cool:
 

Barry Shittpeas

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You often do, so that isn't surprise, justice doesn't work when two things happen
  1. A jury that refuses to allow evidence from witnesses
  2. A majority of those who sit in judgement who are in leauge with the miscreant, and from the same corrupt party.
You are as usual being silly just to provoke an argument aren't you?
Jolly good, very droll, great humour, but stupid. :cool:
I see, he was found guilty in the court of OG. A magnificent & unbiased institution.

The same process saw him impeached. A majority of sour faced losers sat in judgement. Now a majority of supporters have acquitted him.

The Democrats reminds me of our Labour Party. Full of crack-pot ideas that very few people want, but they try to force it through by smearing and knee-capping those with opposing views.

Trump will come back more popular now. Well done Democrats. What a bunch of clowns.
 

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You have to laugh

"The new Private Eye reveals how, contrary to what they told Companies House, the Brexit Party's finances are designed to give full control of millions of pounds to its majority shareholder, the man who's already been fined for misuse of funds, one N. Farage.

I'm shocked I tell you!
Shocked......
but only at the notion that this comes as some sort of surprise! :cool:
Companies House is another organisation that needs a shake up.

One example. Say Old Groaner were a director of a company. Then OG became a director of a second company, and either accidentally or intentionally put their name as Old A Groaner. The two names are not tallied up. Nothing identifies they are the same person.

Whilst people can legally call themselves what they like, using different names at the same time should be seen to be what it is - potential fraud. Especially in respect of one government organisation. And any change of name should be applied to all positions that person holds at the same time. Including appropriate annotation of historic roles.

Given that they can give different addressess as well...

Further, if another Old Groaner were director of another company, it is not immediately clear it is a different one.

They can even put much of the implementation effort onto those who file at CH. For example, just after a name entry:

"If this person is already registered at Companies House, enter their unique reference number here. If they are not already registered, first register the person, then enter their unique reference number. Failure to do so is an offence which will usually result in companies being struck off and persons involved banned from holding legal roles in any companies or filing at Companies House."
 
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He was acquitted by official process. The same official process which allowed the sour & spiteful Dems to time their attack to stand the best chance of de-railing the presidential elections. That’s all this was about.

It’s probably back-fired. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that this stunt has bolstered Trump’s support. I can see him winning another term. These lefty / liberal types simply never learn. They can’t see outside the bubble.
He wasn't judged by a Court in the normal sense.
Have you ever seen a Court that denies witnesses to be called?
There is no surprise if I say that Donald Trump is a good president to his supporters, bad president for the rest of the world.
 

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He wasn't judged by a Court in the normal sense.
Have you ever seen a Court that denies witnesses to be called?
There is no surprise if I say that Donald Trump is a good president to his supporters, bad president for the rest of the world.
I suppose that’s just the way it rolls. The system has been designed that way, it operates that way, it’s been that way for a very long time and you are subjected to it whether a Demo or Rep.
 
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There is much in the news about the state of law & order, probably not the entire picture, which is a lot worse, but certainly some alarming stuff. If you follow the trail of excrement that got us to this situation, you will find that it leads to Theresa May’s front door. There is also a branch line of poo leading to Tom Winsor’s house, who was paid a vast sum of money for conceiving the current mess. He still remains as HM Inspector of Constabulary, presumably assessing the success or failure of his own work.

Why aren’t this pair being hauled in front of the public to explain themselves? If a tradesman did a similar shoddy job in his / her profession, you’d take them to court to get your money back. Why are Winsor & May getting away with it?
Best include Boris Johnson in this, it was he as London mayor who persuaded the Tory government to transfer police control to him and slashed London Police numbers to the bone, resulting in them losing control of the streets.

In truth of course it is none of these individually, so much as the Tory policy since 2010 of cutting everything and leaving the public without protection and care in every sphere.
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I'm sorry, my mistake, I must have mis-heard the news.

Could you point me in the direction of the article which confirms that he was found guilty and impeached? Cheers.
Just correcting your difficulty with language.
Pres. Trump was and remains IMPEACHED.. that is to say an Act of the Congress Impeached him. This was brought to the Senate, which after considering opening arguements by Consul, voted not to call witnesses. They then as a majority voted not to sanction.
 

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There is no surprise if I say that Donald Trump is a good president to his supporters, bad president for the rest of the world.
Not quite. He's a good president to his supporters, that's true. The radical left hate him to the point of derangement. The biggest part of the MSM are radical left, so their derangement compels them to bombard the world with fake stories. Most of the rest of the world don't care, except those that believe the fake news.

During the next 12 months, the whole story about the fake dossier, the fake whistle-blowers and the reasons behind the fake impeachment are going to come out, which will change many opinions about Trump.
 
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During the next 12 months, the whole story about the fake dossier, the fake whistle-blowers and the reasons behind the fake impeachment are going to come out, which will change many opinions about Trump.
next US presidential election is November 3rd, before your 12 months.
If he loses, I expect the whole world will know the extend of his chaotic administration and perhaps how much tax he has or hasn't paid.
If he wins, then the world will have to put up with more of the same: tax cut for the richest, bombings on third world countries, more coal, gas and oil extraction, more tariff war with everyone and anyone and more alternative news.
 

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who watched Ed Balls in Euroland last night on BBC2?

He met up with AfD's MP Frank Magnitz.
Magnitz brought a poster with him to the street where he met up with his supporters.
The poster says: we prefer bikini to burkas.
He had previously another poster of a pregnant woman: future Germans? we can make our own.
Balls quizzed him about the undertone of the posters.
Magnitz replied: that's just a way to get the message across.
Does it remind you of similar posters?

 
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next US presidential election is November 3rd, before your 12 months.
If he loses, I expect the whole world will know the extend of his chaotic administration and perhaps how much tax he has or hasn't paid.
If he wins, then the world will have to put up with more of the same: tax cut for the richest, bombings on third world countries, more coal, gas and oil extraction, more tariff war with everyone and anyone and more alternative news.
That's right. In the meantime, the Dems are going to pull out every stop to try and prevent him winning. Some are saying that they're going to go for another fake impeachment. They probably have no choice.

The tariff war won't necessarily be with everyone. I think we're going to be OK from that point of view. Canada and Mexico seem to be happy too.
 

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who watched Ed Balls in Euroland last night on BBC2?

He met up with AfD's MP Frank Magnitz.
Magnitz brought a poster with him into the street where he met up with his supporters.
The poster says: we prefer bikini to burkas.
He had previously another poster: future Germans, we can make our own.
Balls quizzed him about the undertone of the posters.
Magnitz replied: that's just a way to get the message across.
Does it remind you of similar posters?

Magnitz is right on one thing at least. I prefer bikinis to burkas. What about you? Would you like to see Hatti in a burka?

That poster is a brilliant idea. It's very Trumpesque. The idea is that it'll get loads of discussion, both from those that are enraged by it and those that love it - much better than paid advertising.

The one I think is really clever is the "Islam is right about women" posters.
 
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Best include Boris Johnson in this, it was he as London mayor who persuaded the Tory government to transfer police control to him and slashed London Police numbers to the bone, resulting in them losing control of the streets.

In truth of course it is none of these individually, so much as the Tory policy since 2010 of cutting everything and leaving the public without protection and care in every sphere.
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How many police officers to the water cannon?
 
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Magnitz is right on one thing at least. I prefer bikinis to burkas.
in his show, Ed Balls tries hard to get to the point about brexit votes were a protest against the administration of that time. I think the Leave campaign cleverly deflected the criticism from the conservatives to David Cameron's remainer agenda.
He implies that the result was undemocratic because it was not fought on the proper issue (EU membership).
My guess reconciliation is impossible until another confirmatory referendum maybe in 2025.
 
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in his show, Ed Balls tries hard to get to the point about brexit votes were a protest against the current administration of that time and the Leave campaign cleverly deflected the criticism from the conservatives to David Cameron's remainer agenda.
He implies that the result was undemocratic because it was not fought on the proper issue (EU membership).
My guess reconciliation is impossible until another confirmatory referendum maybe in 2025.
My guess is that such a referendum will be managed in such a way as to preclude the answer "For goodness' sake, re-join right now!".
 

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in his show, Ed Balls tries hard to get to the point about brexit votes were a protest against the administration of that time. I think the Leave campaign cleverly deflected the criticism from the conservatives to David Cameron's remainer agenda.
He implies that the result was undemocratic because it was not fought on the proper issue (EU membership).
My guess reconciliation is impossible until another confirmatory referendum maybe in 2025.
Like a boxing match, the losing side nearly always want a rematch as soon as possible, especially when it's a close match. Unfortunately, in that situation, there's only one winner, but with Brexit, the leave vote got it, so everyone wins.

What about Hatti in a Burka then? Do you think she would she feel empowered?
 

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I see, he was found guilty in the court of OG. A magnificent & unbiased institution.

The same process saw him impeached. A majority of sour faced losers sat in judgement. Now a majority of supporters have acquitted him.

The Democrats reminds me of our Labour Party. Full of crack-pot ideas that very few people want, but they try to force it through by smearing and knee-capping those with opposing views.

Trump will come back more popular now. Well done Democrats. What a bunch of clowns.
Wrong! it wasn't found either way in a court was it?
 

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Like a boxing match, the losing side nearly always want a rematch as soon as possible, especially when it's a close match. Unfortunately, in that situation, there's only one winner, but with Brexit, the leave vote got it, so everyone wins.
for fairplay, you need losers consent to a win. However, the 2016 referendum produced a result where both sides do not consider themselves losers, therefore, no consent.
I have no problem with leavers have a go of making brexit work.
Many of us, on both sides, believe in the greatness of this country but in today's world, would it pass another test against Japan and Germany, the old losing countries?
 
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