Brexit, for once some facts.

flecc

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there would still be a need for dual fuel for some years to come until the charging time won't be an issue anymore.
Another thought on charger availability, better utilisation:

For example, like many businessmen you drive to a meeting somewhere and find the handy charging bay occupied. But being a newer one it has a second parking bay and the charger has two connectors, so you use the second one and go to your meeting.

When the first car stops charging the charge point timer automatically switches to your car. With ultra fast charging that easily looks after both cars quickly, for just the minute cost of an electronic switching circuit in the charge point.

I'm sure that we'll see sophistications like this before too long, if only to cut installation costs.
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I'm sure that we'll see sophistications like this before too long, if only to cut installation costs.
I can see the benefit of your scheme at busy motorways service stations.
 
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When you have a Fascist Government this sort of utter tripe is to be expected


Fearful and weakened?
Let me put it this way what we are about to attempt is the equivalent of launching

a Btirzkrieg attack on the massed ranks of a Red Army Armoured Division
with the Warmington on Sea contingent of Dad's Army.

Piece of cake
Be over by Christmas,
we'll hang our washing on the Eurostar line
etc., etc :cool:
 

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Changes are afoot. I just noticed that not only is Tommy Robinson's Youtube channel no longer restricted, but they've given him a verified tick. I don't think anyone was expecting that. Why did it happen?

The benefits of a Fascist Government
 
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Guidance

Coronavirus: latest information and advice

Advice from You Gov on how to create your own pandemic
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Taking children to school
We recommend that you stay at home for 14 days after arriving from Wuhan or Hubei Province (or elsewhere in China if you have symptoms), and avoid public places. Where possible, contact a friend or family member to take your children to school.

Insanity rules

Well that advice certainly fits in with the new found ambition to "Go Global"
 

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Guidance

Coronavirus: latest information and advice

Advice from You Gov on how to create your own pandemic
"
Taking children to school
We recommend that you stay at home for 14 days after arriving from Wuhan or Hubei Province (or elsewhere in China if you have symptoms), and avoid public places. Where possible, contact a friend or family member to take your children to school.

Insanity rules

Well that advice certainly fits in with the new found ambition to "Go Global"
With logic like that, it must be Matt Hancock as minister and BJ as PM.
 

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Another thought on charger availability, better utilisation:

For example, like many businessmen you drive to a meeting somewhere and find the handy charging bay occupied. But being a newer one it has a second parking bay and the charger has two connectors, so you use the second one and go to your meeting.

When the first car stops charging the charge point timer automatically switches to your car. With ultra fast charging that easily looks after both cars quickly, for just the minute cost of an electronic switching circuit in the charge point.

I'm sure that we'll see sophistications like this before too long, if only to cut installation costs.
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With a bit of thought, you could actually ensure that four cars are close enough to be able to use one charger. Which would be a pretty sensible approach at places like hotels.
 
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With a bit of thought, you could actually ensure that four cars are close enough to be able to use one charger. Which would be a pretty sensible approach at places like hotels.
I've seen one like that opposite Sainsbury's in Southend.
It has a quite noisy ventilation when it works.
 
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flecc

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I've seen one like that opposite Sainsbury's in Southend.
It has a quite noisy ventilation when it works.
The problem I have with simultaneous shared charging is if it slows the charge time, rather unfair for the first one there. That was what gave rise to my sequenced charge suggestion which I think drivers would see as preferable.

Even some existing single chargers are very noisy, when I tried the one at the Halfords Autocentre at Redhill, I thought it was about to take off.
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The problem I have with simultaneous shared charging is if it slows the charge time, rather unfair for the first one there. That was what gave rise to my sequenced charge suggestion which I think drivers would see as preferable.

Even some existing single chargers are very noisy, when I tried the one at the Halfords Autocentre at Redhill, I thought it was about to take off.
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And my thought was that, so long as charging time is less than about one fourth of the typical overnight stay, four vehicles could fully charge, in sequence. Which is why a hotel seemed an obvious possible application, and, for that matter, workplaces where people might be there all day.
 
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The benefits of a Fascist Government
That's the sort of statement a completely deranged person would make. The UK government is a democratically elected conservative one that are enacting what the majority of people in the UK want. The fascists are the guys trying to stop them carrying out their democratic duty.
 
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That's the sort of statement a completely deranged person would make. The UK government is a democratically elected conservative one that are enacting what the majority of people in the UK want. The fascists are the guys trying to stop them carrying out their democratic duty.
1. Fascists can be democratically elected.
2. The Current UK Government was elected by less than 50% of the voting population ,so the argument that it what the majority of people in the UK want is tenuous.

Just keeping your logic straight.
 
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That's the sort of statement a completely deranged person would make. The UK government is a democratically elected conservative one that are enacting what the majority of people in the UK want.
more voters oppose the conservatives:

CON: 43.6%

Against them:

Labour: 32.2% + LibDems: 11.6% = 43.8%

They have more votes than the conservatives (43.8%) - that's before counting all the other opposition parties: SNP, Green, PC, Sin Fein.
We have a kind of democracy but it's far from perfect.
 

oldgroaner

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That's the sort of statement a completely deranged person would make. The UK government is a democratically elected conservative one that are enacting what the majority of people in the UK want. The fascists are the guys trying to stop them carrying out their democratic duty.
Still here? clearly you have no idea as usual what you are talking about, but that is no surprise, why not enroll for a course on European history of the 20th Century?
Some of it might penetrate the propaganda you have so readily soaked in all your life.
Because you don't like my opinions does not make me deranged, that is the sort of comment the simple minded offer as a defence mechanism.
The fascists were democratically elected in Germany remember? and then behaved in precisely the same manner as we are seeing unfold before our eyes in this country.
They are not even working for the minority that voted for them, only the elite that funds them.
They lied to get elected made glowing promises they had no intention of honouring, and renege on already agreed treaties which identifies them as to what they really are.
A right wing junta.
 
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This demostrates the empathy of a millionaire to the homeless



A multi-millionaire Brexit Party candidate has invented a bin for homeless people to sleep in.
Peter Dawe fashioned the 'sleep pod' out of two red wheelie bins, which turn on a hinge to create enough room for someone to lie down in.
The entrepreneur, who picked up 1.9% of the votes when he ran in the General Election in Cambridge last year, says the invention costs just £100.

Mr Dawe, who has dozens of companies and projects listed on his website, believes the invention can have a global impact"

It will have a global impact it will do damage to our reputation as a civilised nation
 

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This demostrates the empathy of a millionaire to the homeless



A multi-millionaire Brexit Party candidate has invented a bin for homeless people to sleep in.
Peter Dawe fashioned the 'sleep pod' out of two red wheelie bins, which turn on a hinge to create enough room for someone to lie down in.
The entrepreneur, who picked up 1.9% of the votes when he ran in the General Election in Cambridge last year, says the invention costs just £100.

Mr Dawe, who has dozens of companies and projects listed on his website, believes the invention can have a global impact"

It will have a global impact it will do damage to our reputation as a civilised nation
Would you prefer that the homeless sleep under cardboard boxes then?
 

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This demostrates the empathy of a millionaire to the homeless



A multi-millionaire Brexit Party candidate has invented a bin for homeless people to sleep in.
Peter Dawe fashioned the 'sleep pod' out of two red wheelie bins, which turn on a hinge to create enough room for someone to lie down in.
The entrepreneur, who picked up 1.9% of the votes when he ran in the General Election in Cambridge last year, says the invention costs just £100.

Mr Dawe, who has dozens of companies and projects listed on his website, believes the invention can have a global impact"

It will have a global impact it will do damage to our reputation as a civilised nation
I hope he proves how good it is by moving into one (or should that be two?) for an extended period. Preferably somewhere that uses the same colour bins for rubbish and that are regularly picked up by the local refuse collection service. In very cold and wet and windy weather.
 

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This is what Conservative voters have voted for, a cheat and a liar.

Michel Barnier: Johnson agreed last year to stick to EU rules

Responding to the prime minister’s claim that there would be no need for Britain to continue to respect EU regulations under a trade deal, the EU’s chief negotiator pointed to the “political declaration” agreed last year with Johnson, while admitting that alignment was a “red rag” to Westminster.

And Barnier is right, we posted the relevant section from that agreement here on the forum only a few days ago.
 
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