If I were sacked, I'd be very unlikely to slag off my former boss. It just isn't what I'd do. Unless there were something which went way beyond him just deciding he didn't want me any more.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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But this is what the transition period is for. They have until 31st December to agree a new arrangement.
Anyway, does it make a difference? There must still be an agreement on international arrest warrants, so Germany has to arrest our criminals, then what? Are they going to let an ISIS terrorist go, just because they haven't rearranged an extradition treaty? I've got a feeling that this is all either just posturing or ckickbait.
I think you misunderstood danidl.
These 3 countries would continue to arrest UK citizens on our request, just not theirs.
Really!!. The WAB is between the EU and the UK, not between individual states . Now a Constitution is a constitution and is not up for interpretation. The transition period has started BECAUSE the UK has left the EU. Germany will no doubt be very happy to extradite British people to the UK , but a German citizen has rights which a UK citizen no longer has in Germany. Some countries reserve the right to try their citizens for crimes committed anywhere in the world,and to try cases of crimes committed against their citizens anywhere ..if Germany is one of these then maybe a German can be tried in Germany for a crime committed in London.
The transition period doesn't apply in this matter now we've left. There doesn't have to be any new arrangement.
In cases where a constitution forbids extradition, the expectation is that the other country conducts the prosecution in their own courts for a crime committed on our soil. Our part is to provide the evidence and any witnesses for that to happen, but they can of course refuse to.
Even without a constitution and where an extradition agreement exists, a country can protect a citizen from extradition. We did that with Gary McKinnon when the US tried to extradite him for computer hacking intrusion into their military security. We did that to protect his mental health.
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Ignore it and the issues arising from it and hope it will go away - while blaming businesses and EU for harking on about it.
I do know about manufacturing as it happens and some of my designs are still in production today, look back at my posts, they are accurate, honest, truthful and unfortunately not likely to resonate with people like yourself who prefer someone else to think for them.
Actually the most negative thing I said was the first to come true.
I forecast a win for the leave campaign and gave accurate reasons why in my posts.
As for a negative attitude, would you like me to quote your earlier posts on how wrong it was for this thread to even exist?
Bearing that attitude in mind, why have you come back to make a nuisance of yourself?
Your recent posts are just as inaccurate and out of touch with reality as your earlier ones.
Any new agreement not only has to be agreed but fully implemented ready for 01/01/2021. I don't know when agreement would be required in order to achieve that, and it is bound to be different for each area that requires an agreement, but it is well before the end of this year.
The only person on here making themselves look silly is you, imagining that somehow you are judging others from some lofty eminence.
Words like "getting yourself enraged" because someone doesn't agree with you is not a sign of a balanced viewpoint.
And worse, for someone who accuses others of seeing everything from a negative viewpoint.
Your inability to see you are doing that too is astonishing.
Just what that can be described as positive have you contributed to the discussion since you recently reappeared?
Enough, back on ignore you go.
And now a word from the Reichministerium for Truth
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Government insists it's 'committed to media freedom' despite controlling access for journalists
The government has insisted controlling access to press briefings is 'entirely standard practice' despite a mass walkout by journalists after some reporters were barred from a Brexit briefing.
And indeed that was true in the Third Reich and Soviet Russia
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Government insists it's 'committed to media freedom' despite controlling access for journalists
The government has insisted controlling access to press briefings is 'entirely standard practice' despite a mass walkout by journalists after some reporters were barred from a Brexit briefing.
And indeed that was true in the Third Reich and Soviet Russia
Found this
Patrick Wintour
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Claire O'Neill, sacked by Dominic Cummings on Friday from running the UK climate change conference in Glasgow, claims Johnson has provided net zero leadership. Britain fought hard diplomatically to run this conference as a sign of its post-Brexit engagement. Cannot afford this.
Another "Not a good start Boris" item
Patrick Wintour
@patrickwintour
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Claire O'Neill, sacked by Dominic Cummings on Friday from running the UK climate change conference in Glasgow, claims Johnson has provided net zero leadership. Britain fought hard diplomatically to run this conference as a sign of its post-Brexit engagement. Cannot afford this.
Another "Not a good start Boris" item
Another negative post showing that you're suffering from BDS. Who cares about which comic writers are allowed into briefings when they only print their deranged versions of the truth?
Boris has done this bad, Boris has done that bad, is all you write. That's derangement. How much time do you spend looking for these things, just so that you can express your enragement?
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Another example of BDS. Are you not seeing a pattern here? I'm trying to help you live a more balanced life. Hopefully, you'll start to see and understand the problem. That's the first step towards recovery.Found this
Patrick Wintour
@patrickwintour
11h
Claire O'Neill, sacked by Dominic Cummings on Friday from running the UK climate change conference in Glasgow, claims Johnson has provided net zero leadership. Britain fought hard diplomatically to run this conference as a sign of its post-Brexit engagement. Cannot afford this.
Another "Not a good start Boris" item
One last redeeming feature of our blighted corrupt little faux democratic kingdom is press freedom. If you think boris' actions does not need to be (intensely)scrutinised, you are naive indeed.
Do you remember Aesop's fable about the sky falling down? What was the moral of the story?
To "trust" boris implicitly is not an act of courage, and to question the interests he really serves (to reference the fable) isnt cowardice.
Gets worse
'No more deal or no deal': Brexit language diktat for Foreign Office staff
Downing Street issues series of dos and don’ts on language department staff must use
Foreign Office staff have been banned from using certain words and phrases in discussing Brexit – including “implementation period”, “no deal”, “special partnership” and even Brexit itself unless in certain narrow circumstances.
The directive underlines the degree to which Downing Street is determined that everyone in the department follows its ideological lead in using language that frames Britain’s departure from the European Union as a clean break.
The memo’s opening sentence says “Brexit is completed. So do not use the term ‘Brexit’, save as a historical event that took place on 31 January 2020”. It then advises “use ‘transition period’ not ‘implementation period’.”
The directive continues: “On 31 December 2020 we will either leave the transition period with a Canada-style free trade agreement’ or the ‘2019 deal’ which will give us a trading relationship with the EU like Australia’s”.
They were told: “Do not use phrases such as ‘deal/no deal’.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/04/no-more-deal-or-no-deal-no-10s-brexit-diktat-to-foreign-office
Propaganda is more important than anything else, it appears. Certainly way above truth and honesty.
As the tories stirred the anti-semitism pot, so shall they be tarred:
The Conservatives are under pressure to discipline the MP Daniel Kawczynski for speaking at a conference alongside some of Europe’s most notorious far-right politicians.
The Tory co-chair of the all-party group on antisemitism, Andrew Percy, and the Board of Deputies of British Jews have asked the party to investigate his appearance on Tuesday at the conference in Rome.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/04/tories-daniel-kawczynski-mp-spoke-far-right-event
The Conservatives are under pressure to discipline the MP Daniel Kawczynski for speaking at a conference alongside some of Europe’s most notorious far-right politicians.
The Tory co-chair of the all-party group on antisemitism, Andrew Percy, and the Board of Deputies of British Jews have asked the party to investigate his appearance on Tuesday at the conference in Rome.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/04/tories-daniel-kawczynski-mp-spoke-far-right-event