Brexit, for once some facts.

[vfr400]

Mark Zuckerberg says that he's now going to support free speech on his platform. It wouldn't surprise me if Tommy Robinson's speech and the subsequent ruckus in the Danish press and media had something to do with it. TR has now been invited to other counties, including Russia and Germany, to speak to their government representatives about how the present censorship in social media and the MSM is working.

The Facebook representative in Denmark admitted that they didn't have any evidence or examples to support their stated reason for banning TR. I predict that we will see TR back on Facebook fairly soon.

This is what MZ said:
“This is the new approach, and I think it’s going to **** off a lot of people,” he said. “But frankly the old approach was pissing off a lot of people too, so let’s try something different.”

If Facebook would indeed allow free speech, the MSM would be finished.

 

[wheeler]

I thought Donald Tusk let himself down with his comments regarding an independent Scotland rejoining the EU. It was clearly a spiteful comment born out of anger and anti English sentiment. His comment was calculated to stir unrest within the U.K.

There is no chance that an independent Scotland will be allowed to join the EU without a period of hideous austerity. Scotland’s economy is even more crazy than that of Greece, and only functions now due to money being pumped into it from England.

If Tusk is such a supporter of independent countries and regions, where was he when Catalonia indicated they wanted independence? He was nowhere, and he was nowhere to be seen because he’s a bitter & spiteful little man.

With comments like that it will be English nationalism which ends the Union, not the Scots.

You have shown your true little Englander colours.

The UK is supposed to be a union of equals, not England and 3 of its colonies which only exist through English munificence.

In 2014 the Scots chose to remain in the UK, almost 6 years later the UK that they voted to remain in no longer exists.

Many Scots are now considering independence, not from the point of being better off financially, but to get away from English nationalism and it's lurch to the right.

The coming negotiations with the EU will be carried out on behalf of England with minimal involvement of the devolved administrations and the results are likely to provide added impetus to those promoting Scottish independence and the demise of the UK.
For many Scots that will be a sad day.

 

[oldgroaner]

Lets be realistic

Scotland can survive outside of the Union, and in the EU thrive
If Scotland leaves, little England is in dire trouble, and Brexit is doomed even more quickly than it surely is now

England allegedly wanted to "Take back control" and "control it's own sovereignty" by pulling out of the EU
That is it's privilege.

Scotland voted overwhelming to remain in the EU
Tell me, what is the difference? why are the Scots subject to the will of the English?
Is Scotland an English Colony?

 

[flecc]

Mark Zuckerberg says that he's now going to support free speech on his platform.
If Facebook would indeed allow free speech, the MSM would be finished.

I'm happy for TR to be on Facebook or any social media, but I haven't got a clue what MSM is. Wikipedia's 26 suggestions don't help, including such as:

Maastricht School of Management

Manhattan School of Music

Militant Socialist Movement

Men who have sex with men

Mechanically separated meat
.

 

[oyster]

No medicine shortages

No, of course, no shortages at all. Except these...

(And do bear in mind that the government has spent a fortune trying to ensure that there are no shortages which can be blamed on them, directly.)

Confidential government documents reveal names of 209 medicine shortages in 2019

The Pharmaceutical Journal23 JAN 2020By Carolyn Wickware



Exclusive: The Pharmaceutical Journal has obtained information from government updates about 209 medicine products that faced supply issues in 2019, including ten medicines that faced stock issues for at least ten months.

The Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) reported 209 medicines shortages in 2019, over half of which occurred for three months or more, according to monthly updates sent to NHS providers.

Ten medicines — including an antiepileptic and a cancer treatment for children — faced supply issues for at least ten months in 2019.


The updates, obtained by The Pharmaceutical Journal, are labelled as “commercial-sensitive” and detail the names and manufacturers of medicines with new or ongoing stock issues.

The government states that the information included in the updates “is confidential to the NHS” and request that the documents not be uploaded to websites in the public domain.

https://www.pharmaceutical-journal.com/news-and-analysis/news/confidential-government-documents-reveal-names-of-209-medicine-shortages-in-2019/20207603.article?firstPass=false

 

[vfr400]

I'm happy for TR to be on Facebook or any social media, but I haven't got a clue what MSM is. Wikipedia's 26 suggestions don't help, including such as:

Maastricht School of Management

Manhattan School of Music

Militant Socialist Movement

Men who have sex with men

Mechanically separated meat
.

MainStream Media, i.e. the press, TV and radio.

msm meaning - Google Search

What Does 'MSM' Mean? | Acronyms by Dictionary.com

MSM means "mainstream media.

www.dictionary.com

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Lets be realistic

Scotland can survive outside of the Union, and in the EU thrive
If Scotland leaves, little England is in dire trouble, and Brexit is doomed even more quickly than it surely is now

England allegedly wanted to "Take back control" and "control it's own sovereignty" by pulling out of the EU
That is it's privilege.

Scotland voted overwhelming to remain in the EU
Tell me, what is the difference? why are the Scots subject to the will of the English?
Is Scotland an English Colony?

Scotland voted to be part of the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom voted to leave the EU.

 

[oyster]

I'm happy for TR to be on Facebook or any social media, but I haven't got a clue what MSM is. Wikipedia's 26 suggestions don't help, including such as:

Maastricht School of Management

Manhattan School of Music

Militant Socialist Movement

Men who have sex with men

Mechanically separated meat
.

You might do better with a more slang-oriented source, such as: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MSM

Maybe Men who have sex with men; an abbreviation initially used for classification purposes. ?

 

[oldgroaner]

Scotland voted to be part of the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom voted to leave the EU.

Because of needing EU membership remember, that was the clincher

 

[wheeler]

Scotland voted to be part of the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom voted to leave the EU.

As I said in my previous post, the UK that Scotland voted to remain part of no longer exists. That is a material change in circumstance which should at least give us the right to choose again if we want to.

Johnson and Westminster's high handed treatment of Scotland and the other devolved administrations simply strengthens the hand of the SNP.

Scotland's demographics require immigration to maintain population, and a perfectly reasonable idea proposed by the Scottish government to have a separate immigration policy for Scotland was batted down by Johnson who said he proposed a policy which would suit the whole UK, in fact "a one size fits all" policy and yet
one of the arguments for Brexit was that the EU came out with one size fits all policies which didn't suit the UK, so why should such policies suit the devolved nations?
Of course we know that when Johnson says "for the whole UK" he means "for England".

You say Scotland's finances are "crazier than Greece", that's a hell of an admission after 300 years of union.

Don't forget, power devolved is power retained, so who exactly is responsible for Scotland's "crazy finances".

 

[oyster]

Oh Dear, oh Dear

Winchester Tower Norwich, being investigated by the police.

'Speak only English' posters racially aggravated, say police
‘Happy Brexit Day’ sign at Norwich flats said foreign tongues would not be tolerated

The distribution of “Brexit day” posters that warned residents of a block of flats to speak only English is being investigated as a racially aggravated incident, police have said.

The printed posters, with the title “Happy Brexit Day”, were stuck to doors on all 15 floors of Winchester Tower in Norwich on Friday morning, the day the UK formally left the European Union.

Addressing residents, it said the “Queens [sic] English is the spoken tongue here” and hailed the moment “we finally get our great country back”.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

As I said in my previous post, the UK that Scotland voted to remain part of no longer exists. That is a material change in circumstance which should at least give us the right to choose again if we want to.

Johnson and Westminster's high handed treatment of Scotland and the other devolved administrations simply strengthens the hand of the SNP.

Scotland's demographics require immigration to maintain population, and a perfectly reasonable idea proposed by the Scottish government to have a separate immigration policy for Scotland was batted down by Johnson who said he proposed a policy which would suit the whole UK, in fact "a one size fits all" policy and yet
one of the arguments for Brexit was that the EU came out with one size fits all policies which didn't suit the UK, so why should such policies suit the devolved nations?
Of course we know that when Johnson says "for the whole UK" he means "for England".

You say Scotland's finances are "crazier than Greece", that's a hell of an admission after 300 years of union.

Don't forget, power devolved is power retained, so who exactly is responsible for Scotland's "crazy finances".

The independence vote was a “once in a generation” event. A generation between votes of this nature is probably about the right time interval. It would be unworkable to have vote, after vote, after vote, every time something changes. Things do change over the period of a generation, and they can change back again within the same period.

So, my opinion is no more referendum nonsense. The vote happened a few years ago. It can be reviewed again in 2045 to see if there have been any lasting changes.

 

[oyster]

Me no lyca mobile.

Major Tory donor Lycamobile embroiled in three disputes with HMRC
Mobile phone firm that donated £2.1m to Conservatives faces bill of over £60m of allegedly unpaid tax
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/feb/02/major-tory-donor-lycamobile-embroiled-in-three-disputes-with-hmrc

HMRC’s refusal to raid top Tory donor Lycamobile to be investigated by MPs

After a French probe into Lycamobile uncovered money laundering and tax fraud, HMRC refused to raid the company, citing its political donations
https://www.accountancyage.com/2018/04/23/hmrcs-refusal-to-raid-top-tory-donor-lycamobile-to-be-investigated-by-mps/

 

[oyster]

The independence vote was a “once in a generation” event. A generation between votes of this nature is probably about the right time interval. It would be unworkable to have vote, after vote, after vote, every time something changes. Things do change over the period of a generation, and they can change back again within the same period.

So, my opinion is no more referendum nonsense. The vote happened a few years ago. It can be reviewed again in 2045 to see if there have been any lasting changes.

On the other hand, how about a vote every year on such issues? I guess, a sort of official opinion poll. No direct action being taken for just one poll.

It could stop feelings building up such a head of steam - allowing the pent up issues to be defused long before 2045.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Me no lyca mobile.

Major Tory donor Lycamobile embroiled in three disputes with HMRC
Mobile phone firm that donated £2.1m to Conservatives faces bill of over £60m of allegedly unpaid tax
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/feb/02/major-tory-donor-lycamobile-embroiled-in-three-disputes-with-hmrc

HMRC’s refusal to raid top Tory donor Lycamobile to be investigated by MPs

After a French probe into Lycamobile uncovered money laundering and tax fraud, HMRC refused to raid the company, citing its political donations
https://www.accountancyage.com/2018/04/23/hmrcs-refusal-to-raid-top-tory-donor-lycamobile-to-be-investigated-by-mps/

The HMRC will only investigate if there is a suspicion that a sole trader is claiming 46p / mile instead of the stated 45p. In these circumstances they will leave no stone unturned, but anything by a large corporation is pretty much overlooked by default.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

On the other hand, how about a vote every year on such issues? I guess, a sort of official opinion poll. No direct action being taken for just one poll.

It could stop feelings building up such a head of steam - allowing the pent up issues to be defused long before 2045.

Maybe once every 10 years and if there are two consecutive indicators that a referendum is needed, the third poll could be binding.

 

[oldgroaner]

The independence vote was a “once in a generation” event. A generation between votes of this nature is probably about the right time interval. It would be unworkable to have vote, after vote, after vote, every time something changes. Things do change over the period of a generation, and they can change back again within the same period.

So, my opinion is no more referendum nonsense. The vote happened a few years ago. It can be reviewed again in 2045 to see if there have been any lasting changes.

Did Scotland say this is a "Once in a generation" event? no, that would be the occupying power that assumes it has the right to impose it's courts over Scotland, while protesting about the EU imposing it's court over them.
Spot anything fundamentally wrong here?

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Did Scotland say this is a "Once in a generation" event? no, that would be the occupying power that assumes it has the right to impose it's courts over Scotland, while protesting about the EU imposing it's court over them.
Spot anything fundamentally wrong here?

Common sense has to prevail over mentalness. It would be mental to have a referendum every time Nicola Sturgeon farts. Better to have a long interval between these big decisions.

 

[wheeler]

The independence vote was a “once in a generation” event.

Perhaps you could point me to any legal document relating to the 2014 referendum which makes that statement, or defines the arbitrary period of time known as a generation.

This was based on a remark by Alex Salmond immediately after the event. For his generation there had never been an independence referendum so he was quite justified to say that he was privileged to have been involved in such "a once in a generation event".

This was pounced on by the unionist parties, particularly the Scottish Tories, and twisted to appear to be an official statement of the frequency of referendums.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Perhaps you could point me to any legal document relating to the 2014 referendum which makes that statement, or defines the arbitrary period of time known as a generation.

This was based on a remark by Alex Salmond immediately after the event. For his generation there had never been an independence referendum so he was quite justified to say that he was privileged to have been involved in such "a once in a generation event".

This was pounced on by the unionist parties, particularly the Scottish Tories, and twisted to appear to be an official statement of the frequency of referendums.

As I said to OG, it’s not good to have referendums like this every 5 or 6 years. If we did that we’d have had 8 or so EU membership referendums. A degree of common sense has to be applied.

I think another referendum in 2045 would be about the right time.