Brexit, for once some facts.

[Wicky]

I think many have twigged but still believe that they made the right choice.
You won't find may who claim life will be better compared to those who think the opposite.However, they think they saved this country from being absorbed into the US of E and you can't put a price tag on that one.

Thankfully the govt has a Blitz time inspired plan where everyone pulls together so we can prosper and thrive out of the EU.

Tory Minister plans to get OAPS to pick fruit & veg - The Telegraph

The Work and Pensions Secretary met them to get the lowdown on the highlights of the job – which apparently include good wages and a subsided house in the countryside, although there are plenty of early starts.

"Six o’clock every morning let’s have them up, let’s have them in the field picking potatoes or any current seasonal vegetables, back in the tent, cold shower, lights out, six o’clock, same again the next day,”

The Times is reporting that Esther McVey believes more of the jobs would be filled by British people if their misconceptions about the work were challenged.

"Farm work is always portrayed as very low paid and back-breaking but it is not the arduous work it was 15 to 20 years ago."

Brits can earn almost £700 a week picking fruit to fill gaps left after Brexit

International bestseller

 

[oyster]

Thankfully the govt has a Blitz time inspired plan where everyone pulls together so we can prosper and thrive out of the EU.

Tory Minister plans to get OAPS to pick fruit & veg - The Telegraph

Brits can earn almost £700 a week picking fruit to fill gaps left after Brexit

International bestseller

Just where can you pick fruit at all in the UK at £700 a week - right now? In February.

 

[Wicky]

Turnips / Swedes?

We Field-Women
How it rained
When we went to Flintcomb-Ash,
And could not stand upon the hill
Trimming Swedes for the slicing-mill.
Wet washed through us – plash, plash, plash:
How it rained!

How it snowed
When we crossed from Flintcomb-Ash
To the Wheat Barn for drawing reed,
Since we could nowise chop a swede.
Flakes in each doorway & casement-sash;
How it snowed!

How it shone
When we went from Flintcomb-Ash
To start at dairywork once more In the laughing meads, with cows threescore,
And pails, & songs, & love – too rash;
How it shone!

Thomas Hardy

 

[oldgroaner]

Just where can you pick fruit at all in the UK at £700 a week - right now? In February.

The answer is obvious it's "piece work"

 

[oldgroaner]

This demonstrates the effectiveness of EU regulations rather well

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1223628396250484737

The Americans should get their flags manufactured in the EU, statistically they must be the World leader among flags likely to come to a flaming end

 

[oyster]

Turnips / Swedes?

We Field-Women
How it rained
When we went to Flintcomb-Ash,
And could not stand upon the hill
Trimming Swedes for the slicing-mill.
Wet washed through us – plash, plash, plash:
How it rained!

How it snowed
When we crossed from Flintcomb-Ash
To the Wheat Barn for drawing reed,
Since we could nowise chop a swede.
Flakes in each doorway & casement-sash;
How it snowed!

How it shone
When we went from Flintcomb-Ash
To start at dairywork once more In the laughing meads, with cows threescore,
And pails, & songs, & love – too rash;
How it shone!

Thomas Hardy

I'll claim turnips and swede are not fruit.

Tired of digging potatoes,
And spudding up docks...
Your hands were like
Paws then, your face
Blue and black ..

 

[oyster]

The answer is obvious it's "piece work"

The original zero hours...

 

[oldgroaner]

What is the wide mouthed Frog up to?
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/nigel-farage-on-second-brexit-referendum-1-6488829

"The Brexit Party leader said that the second vote, however, should only happen once voters had time to see the effects of leaving the European Union first.

Farage claimed there was still a place for him and his party in politics despite Britain leaving the European Union. He told reporters: "We may be leaving the battlefield but we are not going away, that is for sure."

On Boris Johnson he warned that "he has to deliver on Brexit."

So now he wants to creep out of responsibilty? is he going to campaign to rejoin?

 

[vfr400]

Oh Dear, oh Dear

Winchester Tower Norwich, being investigated by the police.

That paper has a Guardian watermark when you hold it up to the light!

 

[oldgroaner]

In the Telegraph
Poor Boris, he is now blaming the EU because he didn't understand the meaning of the agreement he made with them!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/02/01/boris-johnson-infuriated-eu-reneges-free-trade-deal/
Boris Johnson 'infuriated' as EU reneges on free trade deal
The Prime Minister believes Brussels has unilaterally been 'changing the terms' of the deal he agreed last year

As a result the UK is no longer wedded to a Canada-style agreement, in what would be a major hardening in the Government's Brexit strategy.

His owners must have changed his mind for him
Sure enough in the Express
We will not surrender! Boris warns EU there will be NO COMPROMISE in Brexit trade talks

The EU should say, since that is you position, there is nothing to discuss as you keep changing your mind as to what you want.

How very predictable
Not a good start Boris
How can the EU make a deal with you when you will change your mind afterwards?

 

[oyster]

In the Telegraph
Poor Boris, he is now blaming the EU because he didn't understand the meaning of the agreement he made with them!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/02/01/boris-johnson-infuriated-eu-reneges-free-trade-deal/
Boris Johnson 'infuriated' as EU reneges on free trade deal
The Prime Minister believes Brussels has unilaterally been 'changing the terms' of the deal he agreed last year

As a result the UK is no longer wedded to a Canada-style agreement, in what would be a major hardening in the Government's Brexit strategy.

His owners must have changed his mind for him
Sure enough in the Express
We will not surrender! Boris warns EU there will be NO COMPROMISE in Brexit trade talks

The EU should say, since that is you position, there is nothing to discuss as you keep changing your mind as to what you want.

How very predictable
Not a good start Boris
How can the EU make a deal with you when you will change your mind afterwards?

What piece of paper has he got in his grubby paws (even if he has just washed them, I would still consider them grubby) that agrees a free trade deal with the EU?

The EU doesn't say there is one:

EU Trade agreements

Current state of play on trade agreements.

ec.europa.eu

 

[Woosh]

I don't think BJ will do that, he makes no deal noises to keep the DM off his back.
no deal brexit equals Scotland voting for independence and NI remains in the EU in all but name.

 

[oldgroaner]

Hannan shows his mentality in this Tweet
"





Daniel Hannan
@DanielJHannan

One day in and so far:

No food riots

No medicine shortages

No gridlocked motorways

No migrant camps in Kent

No collapse in house prices

No emergency tax rises

No world war Weren't we told that "It's not Project Fear, it's Project Reality"?

 

[oldgroaner]

What piece of paper has he got in his grubby paws (even if he has just washed them, I would still consider them grubby) that agrees a free trade deal with the EU?

The EU doesn't say there is one:

EU Trade agreements

Current state of play on trade agreements.

ec.europa.eu

They forgot the "Oven ready " one Boris agreed with them

 

[oyster]

They forgot the "Oven ready " one Boris agreed with them

Things that are oven-ready get put in an uncomfortably hot place and then eaten.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Just watching The Politics show. They’ve just had a clown called Magic Magic on. He’s the Green Party MEP. Jesus Christ, he looks like a circus act, and it get worse when he talks. Makes you wonder if things can get worse by leaving if we have these people representing us.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

I thought Donald Tusk let himself down with his comments regarding an independent Scotland rejoining the EU. It was clearly a spiteful comment born out of anger and anti English sentiment. His comment was calculated to stir unrest within the U.K.

There is no chance that an independent Scotland will be allowed to join the EU without a period of hideous austerity. Scotland’s economy is even more crazy than that of Greece, and only functions now due to money being pumped into it from England.

If Tusk is such a supporter of independent countries and regions, where was he when Catalonia indicated they wanted independence? He was nowhere, and he was nowhere to be seen because he’s a bitter & spiteful little man.

 

[oldgroaner]

I thought Donald Tusk let himself down with his comments regarding an independent Scotland rejoining the EU. It was clearly a spiteful comment born out of anger and anti English sentiment. His comment was calculated to stir unrest within the U.K.

There is no chance that an independent Scotland will be allowed to join the EU without a period of hideous austerity. Scotland’s economy is even more crazy than that of Greece, and only functions now due to money being pumped into it from England.

If Tusk is such a supporter of independent countries and regions, where was he when Catalonia indicated they wanted independence? He was nowhere, and he was nowhere to be seen because he’s a bitter & spiteful twat.

You are sounding like one yourself by the way

 

[vfr400]

You are sounding like one yourself by the way

I don't know about spiteful but I think you'll definitely see bitterness when you look in the mirror. Here's a suggestion that might help you to cure yourself: Go back and look at all your posts from 2016 onwards. They mainly showed clips from Guardian showing impending doom. Ask yourself how silly those clips look now that you know what actually happened, then ask yourself why you continue to do it.

It's the same with Trump. They said the sky would fall to Earth, but Trump has excelled in just about every possible government measurable. The only unhappy people are the extreme left-wingers, who spend all their time writing fiction stories in the Guardian and other left-wing press, then sharing them and believing their own stories and getting enraged. The future looks very bright for USA citizens.

Try reading independent news instead, and I guarantee within a couple of weeks, you'll start to feel better.

 

[flecc]

I thought Donald Tusk let himself down with his comments regarding an independent Scotland rejoining the EU. It was clearly a spiteful comment born out of anger and anti English sentiment. His comment was calculated to stir unrest within the U.K.

There is no chance that an independent Scotland will be allowed to join the EU without a period of hideous austerity. Scotland’s economy is even more crazy than that of Greece, and only functions now due to money being pumped into it from England.

If Tusk is such a supporter of independent countries and regions, where was he when Catalonia indicated they wanted independence? He was nowhere, and he was nowhere to be seen because he’s a bitter & spiteful little man.

Not true in any way, Tusk is not anti English, though definitely opposed to Brexit of course.

Your assessment of Scotland's economy is obviously the biased and incorrect view that Scotland's offshore oil belongs to England. It doesn't, it will belong to Scotland in international law if they are independent, and that tilts the economy in their favour. Now that modern pressurised extraction methods have revitalised all the old wells as the USA has dramatically shown, Scotland has reserves that would last their well under 6 million population Scottish economy for a very long time, plenty of time to build a new economy, so independence is viable now.

And your Catalonia reference is irrelevant, Spain hasn't been negotiating leaving the EU so Tusk had no involvement there. The UK has been leaving, a process involving Tusk, so of course he can speak of matters he's officially involved in.
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