they came out with the correct explanation rather a lot more quickly than the Americans when the latter accidentally shot down a passenger plane.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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I didn’t say that the items where under my control. Where did you get that idea from?
He gets 95% of his pocket money off Prince Charles, laughably for royal duties. Let’s face it, both are such a pair of twats that they couldn’t make that sort of cheese on their own talent.
I see, so that makes it ok to shoot down an airliner and then lie about it? Nice one.
(not sure which airliner was shot down by USA. )
I don't think so. The Dali Lama is superb, the Pope is superb, even I am super and we all don't feature in these magazines.. Nothing to do with intrinsic qualities.
of course it's not OK to shoot down an airliner, nobody said it was.
The importance is how quickly the authorities accept responsibility and pay compensation.
it was an Iranian airliner that was shot down by USS Vincennes on the 03 July 1988.
Please ,when you came onto this site,I hoped for an increase in rational discussion. For an official body to admit a mistake of this magnitude ,within this time frame is unprecedented. The situation in Iran was febrile.. just as it was in London, leading to the Brazilian lad, Carlos Mendes being shot.
We in Ireland are still waiting for the British authorities to admit the shooting down of an Aer Lingus Viscount off Tusker Rock ,in I think 1968, or the mysterious sinkings of multiple Irish trawlers in the Irish Sea...hint in one of the cases of a near miss ,an alert member of the crew cut the nets as the boat was being dragged in reverse at 30 miles an hour.
The context of @Woosh reply was just that. He used the length of time it took the USA to admit the shooting down of an airliner to justify the Iranian's categorical denial of any involvement in downing the Ukrainian plane, and then admitting it, but only when cornered. It's a bit like catching Little Johnny steeling sweets, but him using the fact that Foul Jack stole some as his defence. It doesn't wash.
Woosh wasn't justifying it, just explaining the delay.
All the big boys do it, as well as all the cases mentioned above there was the Korean Airlines flight 007 deliberately shot down by a Russian SU15 warplane on 1st September 1983. The pilot had direct orders from the top to shoot it down, but they denied shooting it down for a while.
And of course there was Malayan Airlines flight MH17 shot down by a missile over the Ukraine, still firmly denied by all parties. But now international arrest warrants are out for Igor Girkin, Sergei Dubinsky and Oleg Pulatov from Russia, as well as Ukrainian Leonid Kharchenko, with a trial scheduled.
They all play for time to get the best story together after such events.
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it was a typo, 'your' later corrected to 'their', you could easily see by the context yourself, no need to read it again.
The point I made to you is, instead of lauding Meghan and Harry for trying something new, our gutter press tried to exploit old-fashioned prejudice against Meghan's family and her career, and score cheap points without any factual evidence.
That young couple deserves more praise than opprobrium.
The Iranian response was unprecedentedly rapid for an event of this type. It would not have taken very long for the discovery to be made that it was their own missile which had taken down a plane or a drone or something. But it might be hours before the active duty staff would be aware it was a neutral aircraft. Then they had to inform senior management. Then other parts of the security services would need to ensure that the people who authorised it were not under blackmail or duress .Then the cabinet would be informed and were .
Remember the initial information and supposition circulating around the world was that it was one of the ballastic missiles aimed at US bases .The only definite statement from Iran was no to that.
Donald Trump is desperate for a deal before his presidential campaign.
The Iranians know that. They don't need nuclear weapons, just the ability to assemble some quickly if needed.
So they use their nuclear program as a bargaining chip to keep the USA out of their country.
I had never heard anything about this accident, so have looked it up. I think at best, we can say that the cause of the accident is inconclusive, most likely a structural failure of a control surface (Irish Government investigation), but even that isn't conclusive. There is a theoretical possibility that the plane could have been hit by a stray missile from a UK testing range, but as far as I can tell, there is nothing to support that either, other than it being a possible theory.
To make the accusation that it WAS shot down by The UK, and to be waiting for an admission of such an act, is not something which is based upon sound reasoning or likely probability. Unless there is further substantive information that I have missed?
I have to disagree with you on that. The press were very pro Meghan in the beginning, she could do no wrong, they loved her, just like they loved Kate. The rot set in when both Harry & Meghan started acting and talking like dick-heads. The press are still on-side with William & Kate because they don't issue hypocrisy sodden lectures to the public at large, that's all.
Plausible deniability. Viscounts were fairly reliable. Lets put it this way, the UK Military establishment has plenty of "previous.".. including the trawler incidents
Anyway enough on that topic
Saying they were only going to have two children in order to reduce their carbon footprint and urging others to do the same. I actually agree with that, but when it’s said by people private jetting back and forth over the Atlantic to events such as baby showers, they look like dick-heads. When you don’t attend engagements because you don’t want to leave the baby, and then a few weeks later leave it in Canada, you look like a dick-head. This latest, standing down saga was badly handled. Springing it on the 90+ year old queen is the work of a dick-head. He could have handled that with more sensitivity. It was unnecessary to cause that level of surprise and upset.
I remember when Harry used to travel on budget airlines. He’s gone all preachy and presents a dick-head image these days. It’s a shame.
These are just a few examples of their dick-headedness.
I think his mother being killed and then him being made to walk behind her coffin at such a young age must have damaged him. I’m sure he blames the media for her death, probably with some justification. He seemed to be presenting himself well until the past few years.
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my children think the same, 2 kids - that's it.
Also my wife did same. We all are concerned about our carbon footprint, it's just the sign of the time.
I don't call them that though.
I agree with your children too. Do your kids yo-yo back and forth around the globe on private jets whilst saying it though? That last bit is the important element to it all, and it is this which elevates Harry & Meghan to dick-head status.