Brexit, for once some facts.

Woosh

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I'm in several extreme left wing groups as well as some right wing ones. It's very interesting getting the different points of view.
good job that you are only watching their videos.
I shudder at the thought that you may join them one day in one of those street fights.
 

oldgroaner

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BJ did win the right to try his luck at WTO brexit.
I think he'll give up before the end of the year. I don't think he'll get anywhere with new trade deals. Not with any of the G8 or top 15 countries for that matter.
He'll try for WTO clause 24 instead.
Here is the clause in question
https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/region_e/region_art24_e.htm

There are two drawbacks to this
  1. No real control to ensure conformity
  2. No nation physically near enough to allow the sort of seamless and rapid JIT integration we had with the EU
Not much chance of re-industrialising unless we do so on such a scale we don't need any external supply chains.
And in any case the market is already saturated and too small.
 

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Here is the clause in question
https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/region_e/region_art24_e.htm

There are two drawbacks to this
  1. No real control to ensure conformity
  2. No nation physically near enough to allow the sort of seamless and rapid JIT integration we had with the EU
Not much chance of re-industrialising unless we do so on such a scale we don't need any external supply chains.
And in any case the market is already saturated and too small.
there is no way we can have JIT supply chain without the single market and customs union. It's the lack of certainty that your shipments won't get delayed for days waiting for inspection.

For Bojo, brexit is just a stepping stone to the top job.
Now he's got it, the initial attraction could turn into years of nightmare.
 

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You said the following:

“A simple explanation about how he did it would have put me at ease, but I still don't have it. I have an excellent record of calling things out in the forum when things are not what they should be.”

There is an implication in your words that I am doing something wrong, doing something contrary to the way it should be done. That is more than satisfying your curiosity, it’s an accusation of wrongdoing. Your self perceived “copper’s nose” is telling you this.

So, tell me what it is that you suspect me of doing which is contrary to the rules of the forum. If you can’t, ****-off and don’t come back.

Good evening.
I don't know what you're doing here, how you got here or why you came. All I know is that your profile and activity is atypical. Why are you being rude?
 
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vfr400

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good job that you are only watching their videos.
I shudder at the thought that you may join them one day in one of those street fights.
They don't fight these days. There's usually too many cops around, but when you come face to face, there's often a bit of shin kicking, which goes unseen because everybody is looking above waist level. It's interesting to watch and you can get all your expenses paid just for holding a placard.
 
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Barry Shittpeas

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I don't know what you're doing here, how you got here or why you came. All I know is that your profile and activity is atypical. Why are you being rude?
It is beyond very rude and deeply into pig-ignorance territory, to make insinuations that I am in some way being dishonest. This is especially so when you won‘t say specifically what I have done, or how that impacts of the forum’s terms of use.

You are effectively accusing me of impropriety by breaking a set of Ts & Cs, rules which only exist inside your head. You can’t even state which of your imaginary laws you think I broken.

Regardless of the above, what does who I am have to do with you? Under what self appointed authority are you demanding to know information about me? You are nothing more than the rest of us on here. Know your place!

If you believe that I am in some way operating outside of the forum rules, take your concerns to the moderators and give them a good laugh at your expense. Stop making a fool of yourself on this thread and either put up or shut up.
 
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jonathan.agnew

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I don't know what you're doing here, how you got here or why you came. All I know is that your profile and activity is atypical. Why are you being rude?
It is beyond very rude and deeply into pig-ignorance territory, to make insinuations that I am in some way being dishonest. This is especially so when you won‘t say specifically what I have done, or how that impacts of the forum’s terms of use.

You are effectively accusing me of impropriety by breaking a set of Ts & Cs. Rules which only exist inside your head. You can’t even state which of your imaginary laws I have allegedly broken.

Regardless of the above, what does who I am have to do with you? Under what self appointed authority are you demanding to know information about me? You are nothing more than the rest of us on here. Know your place!

If you believe that I am in some way operating outside of the forum rules, take your concerns to the moderators and give them a good laugh at your expense. Stop making a fool of yourself on this thread and either put up or shut up.
May I take this opportunity to encourage both of you? This aspect of the thread (infighting) has a soap opera quality I find oddly fascinating. It's a bit like throwing a sicky, watching daytime telly and suddenly finding oneself watching a soap in which one can choose to play bit parts. It's a lot more interesting than watching bojo anyway.
 

Barry Shittpeas

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May I take this opportunity to encourage both of you? This aspect of the thread (infighting) has a soap opera quality I find oddly fascinating. It's a bit like throwing a sicky, watching daytime telly and suddenly finding oneself watching a soap in which one can choose to play bit parts. It's a lot more interesting than watching bojo anyway.
Watch a lot of daytime tv do you? I wouldn’t know what parallels you are attempting to draw
 
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Zlatan

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Hero and Zero nominees for this week are...
Hero... Ricky Gervais, for saying it as it was at award ceremony.
Best lines, "James Corden was a fat pussy, he also acted in "Cats" ". (or words to that effect) And" Actors have spent less time in school than Greta Thunberg". And "If ISIS started a streaming service you lot would be phoning your agents" Brilliant.
Zero.... Corbyn, for yet again demonstrating why he isnt in no10. He is closely run by Wrong Daily for giving him a 10/10 in his Election campaign. (Would be like SAF giving Ole a 10/10 for Utd's game last night against City, which as a Utd fan I had to turn off)
 
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Watch a lot of daytime tv do you? I wouldn’t know what parallels you are attempting to draw
Agnew likes a good argument apparently even more so if he's not involved. We used to call them "coat holders" at school. They love a good fight.
 

oldgroaner

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May I take this opportunity to encourage both of you? This aspect of the thread (infighting) has a soap opera quality I find oddly fascinating. It's a bit like throwing a sicky, watching daytime telly and suddenly finding oneself watching a soap in which one can choose to play bit parts. It's a lot more interesting than watching bojo anyway.
More enlightening too than watching the Monkey's tea party at the HOC
 

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I have to say the aim if the Iranians is quite remarkable, if reports are to be believed they can lob numerous short range ballistic missiles into American Air force bases without breaking any windows or causing any embarassment.
Bloody good shooting, that. :cool:
stop press: now it appears there were some casualties after all.
The earlier reports were it seems optimistic.
 
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Zlatan

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I have to say the aim if the Iranians is quite remarkable, if reports are to be believed they can lob numerous short range ballistic missiles into American Air force bases without breaking any windows or causing any embarassment.
Bloody good shooting, that. :cool:
They are saying all rockets were detected early by Satelites. They got tape on windows real quick.....and hid.
Lets hope it counts as retaliation and Trump leaves it be.
Thought crashed plane was rather coincidental tho.. 168 dead.. Engine fire???
 

oldgroaner

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They are saying all rockets were detected early by Satelites. They got tape on windows real quick.....and hid.
Lets hope it counts as retaliation and Trump leaves it be.
Thought crashed plane was rather coincidental tho.. 168 dead.. Engine fire???
Remarkable coincidence?
 
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