Brexit, for once some facts.

vfr400

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No, the reason you come in here is a dog in the manger attitude. The thread is no good to you, you don't like it, so you post here in an attempt to spoil it for others.

Spoilt brat springs to mind.
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How have I spoilt it? Please be specific.
 
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oldgroaner

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Fascinating
https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6119925706001

Govt rejects visa-free deal with UK
06/01/2020|1min


The Morrison government has rejected a post-Brexit trade agreement that included visa-free work and travel between Australia and the United Kingdom. Trade Minister Simon Birmingham said changes to work rights would be proposed and accepted on both sides but not full free movement.

Aussies win the First Test! :(
 

Zlatan

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Your stance is very odd. You insist you dont like thread, which is fine. Knock all the posters in it, denigrate both its popularity and its content but cant keep away?
I hate crowds, so I stay away from them. You seem to be displaying a masochistic tendency? Nobody is making you read or post.
 

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How to create a totally false impression
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Conor Burns
@ConorBurnsUK


In Geneva as we prepare to retake our seat
@WTO
. The UK will be a powerful advocate of the rules based international system of free trade. Met Sunanta Kangvalkulkij, Permanent Representative for Thailand and Chair of the WTO's General Council who are on the same page as

We have never left the WTO and have throughout held a seat.
That of course will end when we leave the EU
Now we have to apply for individual membership, and guess what?
That still has to be applied for and approved by all 164 Members. Eight countries have already lodged Objections, including Russia ...... So, even getting into this on "WTO terms" is not a given.

Perhaps someone can explain how dropping out of a market and we are leaving a trading bloc of 500 million people to fall back on one of 65 million, which incidentally has no judges because US has effectively torpedoed the system by refusing to ratify the Arbitration Judges, rendering dispute resolution much harder.

Comical or rather it would be if it was happening to some other nation than ours.
 

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Comical or rather it would be if it was happening to some other nation than ours.
BJ did win the right to try his luck at WTO brexit.
I think he'll give up before the end of the year. I don't think he'll get anywhere with new trade deals. Not with any of the G8 or top 15 countries for that matter.
He'll try for WTO clause 24 instead.
 

vfr400

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I was specific, I said you attempt to, not that you succeeded.
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That's completely meaningless. How do you know what's going on in my mind? Let's change the question then. How do I attempt to spoil things? Please be specific. Some examples might help.
 

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Let's change the question then. How do I attempt to spoil things? Please be specific.
you posted pointless youtube videos.
I would much like to read your views on things, not watching youtube dross.
 
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That's completely meaningless. How do you know what's going on in my mind? Let's change the question then. How do I attempt to spoil things? Please be specific. Some examples might help.
You just answered your own question, of course I don't know.

But what I do know is your increasingly childish interventions in a thread you have said that you strongly dislike and would like shut down. In the circumstances your posting in here is either irrational or intended to be disruptive.
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vfr400

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You just answered your own question, of course I don't know.

But what I do know is your increasingly childish interventions in a thread you have said that you strongly dislike and would like shut down. In the circumstances your posting in here is either irrational or intended to be disruptive.
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I still don't get how you think that you have a link to my thought process, so can figure out motivations and intentions. Whether it's imaginary or real, there is something wrong with it because it's giving you the wrong results. It's you that's completely irrational. You keep making statements that can't be justified. I can understand that you don't like some of my opinions, but to draw the conclusion that I'm childlike because you don't agree with them is a bit of a stretch.

I came back to this thread to see that there was a new member posting. His profile, background and behaviour don't match anything that I've seen before in 10 years on this forum, which made me curious. I ask a simple question and you all go nuts. Go back and look at it again and tell me what's wrong with it. I was expecting an answer like, "I'm a friend of XXXX (One of the regular posters), who invited me here", but instead, I get asked about accusations, of which I made none. That makes me more suspicious that the guy has something to hide. I like a good puzzle. It's not childish to try to figure out anomalies.
 
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I came back to this thread to see that there was a new member posting. His profile, background and behaviour don't match anything that I've seen before in 10 years on this forum, which made me curious. I ask a simple question and you all go nuts. Go back and look at it again and tell me what's wrong with it. I was expecting an answer like, "I'm a friend of XXXX (One of the regular posters), who invited me here", but instead, I get asked about accusations, of which I made none. That makes me more suspicious that the guy has something to hide. I like a good puzzle. It's not childish to try to figure out anomalies.
The only anomaly is your posting in a thread you dislike and believe shouldn't exist

Nobody has to account to you, as Barry said, who do you think you are, the forum policeman. Even if he does have something to hide, that's none of your business in an anonymous forum and he can choose whether to answer a question.

Your petulance is childish in the extreme and the disapproval of the others in this thread reflects the truth of that.

This is my last answer to this petty line of questioning.
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Zlatan

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I still don't get how you think that you have a link to my thought process, so can figure out motivations and intentions. Whether it's imaginary or real, there is something wrong with it because it's giving you the wrong results. It's you that's completely irrational. You keep making statements that can't be justified. I can understand that you don't like some of my opinions, but to draw the conclusion that I'm childlike because you don't agree with them is a bit of a stretch.

I came back to this thread to see that there was a new member posting. His profile, background and behaviour don't match anything that I've seen before in 10 years on this forum, which made me curious. I ask a simple question and you all go nuts. Go back and look at it again and tell me what's wrong with it. I was expecting an answer like, "I'm a friend of XXXX (One of the regular posters), who invited me here", but instead, I get asked about accusations, of which I made none. That makes me more suspicious that the guy has something to hide. I like a good puzzle. It's not childish to try to figure out anomalies.
You should enjoy jigsaw puzzles then. Have a go at one of those.You might upset fewer people.
 

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The only anomaly is your posting in a thread you dislike and believe shouldn't exist

Nobody has to account to you, as Barry said, who do you think you are, the forum policeman. Even if he does have something to hide, that's none of your business in an anonymous forum and he can choose whether to answer a question.

Your petulance is childish in the extreme and the disapproval of the others in this thread reflects the truth of that.

This is my last answer to this petty line of questioning.
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You see, this is you and him reading things that just aren't there. You're idea that I don't like this thread is completely wrong. You've made that up.

I only asked a question to satisfy my curiosity. If the guy wants to hide something, that's up to him. I never said that he had to answer. Nothing on this forum is my business, neither is it yours. We come here to make it our business. Nobody has a right to exclude anyone from any topic or any question except the administrators.

There's nothing petulant or childish in anything I wrote. That's another construct of your imagination. If you think there is, show me where it is. You can't because there isn't anything like that.
 
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vfr400

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you posted pointless youtube videos.
I would much like to read your views on things, not watching youtube dross.
It's an excellent analytical video that describes the basis of why the northern voters turned against Labour, which then allowed the Tories to get Brexit through. You should watch more analysis from every source, then you would get a more balanced view of what's going on. I'm in several extreme left wing groups as well as some right wing ones. It's very interesting getting the different points of view.
 

vfr400

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You should enjoy jigsaw puzzles then. Have a go at one of those.You might upset fewer people.
Who's upset? If anybody is genuinely upset, add a red X to this post, and I would appreciate if you add a comment as to why in a separate post.
 

oldgroaner

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Funnily enough I've just finished a Jigsaw Puzzle.....Only took me 4 days....very pleased with myself....It said 5-6 years on the box.
You should take it back and demand a refund, they have robbed you of the many years of fulfillment they promised!
Now what does that remind me of.... :cool:
 
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You see, this is you and him reading things that just aren't there. I only asked a question to satisfy my curiosity. If the guy wants to hide something, that's up to him. I never said that he had to answer.
You said the following:

“A simple explanation about how he did it would have put me at ease, but I still don't have it. I have an excellent record of calling things out in the forum when things are not what they should be.”

There is an implication in your words that I am doing something wrong, doing something contrary to the way it should be done. That is more than satisfying your curiosity, it’s an accusation of wrongdoing. Your self perceived “copper’s nose” is telling you this.

So, tell me what it is that you suspect me of doing which is contrary to the rules of the forum. If you can’t, (admin removed - no need for this) and don’t come back.

Good evening.
 
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oldgroaner

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You said the following:

“A simple explanation about how he did it would have put me at ease, but I still don't have it. I have an excellent record of calling things out in the forum when things are not what they should be.”

There is an implication in your words that I am doing something wrong, doing something contrary to the way it should be done. That is more than satisfying your curiosity, it’s an accusation of wrongdoing. Your self perceived “copper’s nose” is telling you this.

So, tell me what it is that you suspect me of doing which is contrary to the rules of the forum. If you can’t, ****-off and don’t come back.

Good evening.
Don't encourage him, he suffers from delusions of moral purity.
He has an excellent record alright, for being a distraction and a waste of time
Think of it this way.
If you are upsetting him
You must be doing something right! :cool:
 

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