Brexit, for once some facts.

flecc

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I left the forum and cancelled my account. The only way back was with a new one. That makes two incarnations.
Agreed, and you've never attempted in any way to hide that you were once d8veh. Your old posts under that cancelled account name are now shown as by deleted member 4366.

In both incarnations you've been a highly valued member, solving numerous technical problems on members e-bikes.
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Zlatan

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I left the forum and cancelled my account. The only way back was with a new one. That makes two incarnations. One and one makes two. Didn't you learn that at school?

I've never done anything illegitimate on this forum, nor have I ever pretended to be someone I'm not.

Sorry if being rich is a problem for you, but I earned all my money legitimately by hard work. I never exploited anyone and I paid all taxes due. I use my money (and time) to help everyone I can, so you shouldn't have any beef with it.
Didnt know your finacial situation and what the hell as that got to do with anything. As for having a beef, that was you with Barry.Everybody knows you were a reincarnation of a grumpy poster so why have a go at Barry?
As for a valued member, that certainly depends on who you ask. Your insults and attitude towards Eddie (and Flud) were appalling. Perhaps flecc and others missed it.
You cancelled your account insisting you would never return...But you did, and it didnt take long for your attitude to reappear did it? OG got your measure pretty quickly.
So what are you doing in here? Causing trouble? Well there's a change.
 
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vfr400

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Didnt know your finacial situation and what the hell as that got to do with anything. As for having a beef, that was you with Barry.Everybody knows you were a reincarnation of a grumpy poster
You cancelled your account insisting you would never return...But you did, and it didnt take long for your attitude to reappear did it? OG got your measure pretty quickly.
That's blatant lies. You should be ashamed of yourself.
 
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vfr400

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Sorry flecc, you are wrong here. Ask Eddiepj his thoughts.
Whilst ever DV8EH is posting in here I certainly wont be doing. I, ll drop out and call back in a while to see.
Good luck with VFR. You, ll need it. There isnt room for me and DV8 in here.
Yes, Flecc ask him and post his thoughts here.
 
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vfr400

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Think I might stay for a while. In case anybody missed it.
Whilst ever DV8EH is posting in here I certainly wont be doing. I, ll drop out and call back in a while to see.
Good luck with VFR. You, ll need it. There isnt room for me and DV8 in here.
 
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oldgroaner

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Sorry flecc, you are wrong here. Ask Eddiepj his thoughts.
Whilst ever DV8EH is posting in here I certainly wont be doing. I, ll drop out and call back in a while to see.
Good luck with VFR. You, ll need it. There isnt room for me and DV8 in here.
Just ignore him, I do
 
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Danidl

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Not at all Boris isn't the only one is he? and the agreement predates him by many years. The power stations by the way were Russian built, and this may interest you.
"President Eisenhower visited Iran's Shah Reza Pahlavi in Tehran in 1959. The U.S. had begun working with Iran to launch its nuclear program two years earlier and would provide Iran with its first nuclear research reactor in the 1960s, at Tehran University

Bit of a joke don't you think, that America gave Iran their first Nuclear reactor?
However it is a huge step to go from a reactor to a working weapon, and the agreement was to limit the production of enhanced Uranium which is only the first stage of the big leap of technology required to make a bomb

The contradiction is in your statement "Nobody believes they would stop their Nuclear program "
perhaps this too will help
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/nuke/RL34544.pdf
"The United States has assessed that Tehran possesses the technological and industrial capacity to produce nuclear weapons. But Iran has not yet mastered all of the necessary technologies for building such weapons. Whether Iran has a viable design for a nuclear weapon is unclear. A National Intelligence Estimate made public in 2007 assessed that Tehran “halted its nuclear weapons program” in 2003. The estimate, however, also assessed that Tehran is “keeping open the option to develop nuclear weapons” and that any decision to end a nuclear weapons program is “inherently reversible.” U.S. intelligence officials have reaffirmed this judgment on several occasions. "

In short the agreement was worth preserving
The contradiction is in your statement "Nobody believes they would stop their Nuclear program "

They did and it was monitored
https://www.iaea.org › newscenter › focus › iran

There are problems but at least there was dialogue and this has delayed the day when they get nukes, unless of course they can get Pakistan say to give them the technology.
At that time.. early 1960s there was an optimism in the USA. regarding atomic energy. I recall the arrival of a cruise ship called the Savannah into Dublin port, and it was Nuclear powered ..I remember the green blue glow of the chernkov radiation when looking into the reactor .. yes school kids were allowed. My University was equipped with a neutron activation reactor under some Atoms for Peace initiative. As a postgrad, I would have had partial responsibility for the facility.. running and supervising labs fir undergrads.
 

Zlatan

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Strange that VFR400 now wants to post in here.His previous incarnation thought thread was drivel.
Suppose that's blatant lies too.
He even changed his ID so he could come and join us. How nice.
 

Barry Shittpeas

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I left the forum and cancelled my account. The only way back was with a new one. That makes two incarnations. One and one makes two. Didn't you learn that at school?

I've never done anything illegitimate on this forum, nor have I ever pretended to be someone I'm not.

Sorry if being rich is a problem for you, but I earned all my money legitimately by hard work. I never exploited anyone and I paid all taxes due. I use my money (and time) to help everyone I can, so you shouldn't have any beef with it.
Illegitimate! Exploitation! Taxes!

Looks like you’ve opened up a whole new can of worms here buddy. Perhaps it should be the other way around, me cautioning and then questioning you?
 

flecc

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Sorry flecc, you are wrong here. Ask Eddiepj his thoughts.
Whilst ever DV8EH is posting in here I certainly wont be doing. I, ll drop out and call back in a while to see.
Good luck with VFR. You, ll need it. There isnt room for me and DV8 in here.
Being fair isn't being wrong.

I'm well aware of the spat between Eddiepj and d8veh/vfr400. What you won't know is that the first spat between d8veh and another member in pedelecs was with me years ago. The way he posted at me back then was in my opinion more extreme than with any other member.

But that's water under the bridge, I never bear a grudge.

vfr400 expresses himself online in a very forthright and direct way that can seem offensive, however those who have met him in person have a very different impression. So I take into account that I only have a limited knowledge of anyone online and we all have our differences anyway. There's room for all of us in here, though vfr400 may well disagree! :D
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Zlatan

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Being fair isn't being wrong.

I'm well aware of the spat between Eddiepj and d8veh/vfr400. What you won't know is that the first spat between d8veh and another member in pedelecs was with me years ago. The way he posted at me back then was in my opinion more extreme than with any other member.

But that's water under the bridge, I never bear a grudge.

vfr400 expresses himself online in a very forthright and direct way that can seem offensive, however those who have met him in person have a very different impression. So I take into account that I only have a limited knowledge of anyone online and we all have our differences anyway. There's room for all of us in here, though vfr400 may well disagree! :D
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Fair point. As normal.
I think most of us are direct in here, accusing a new poster for doing exactly what VFR has done is rather more than direct. Its hypocrisy. I find VFR and his previous incarnations aggresive but he perhaps sees mine as same. But you are correct, water under bridge and all that.
Apologies VFR.
 
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Zlatan

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Hi all. :)

Many thanks for contacting me Zlatan, but not wishing to offend anyone in any direction, I agree with flecc.

Life hasn't been great to me of late, and I'm quite content to ignore anything that has happened in the past, and start with a clean slate so to speak. :)

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Yep, I, ve just come to my senses. Cheers Eddie.
Just in from hard session on sea... Was still hyper... and frozen.
Both of you obviously correct.
Take care.
And sorry to hear you are having problems. Good luck with them.
 

oldgroaner

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Being fair isn't being wrong.

I'm well aware of the spat between Eddiepj and d8veh/vfr400. What you won't know is that the first spat between d8veh and another member in pedelecs was with me years ago. The way he posted at me back then was in my opinion more extreme than with any other member.

But that's water under the bridge, I never bear a grudge.

vfr400 expresses himself online in a very forthright and direct way that can seem offensive, however those who have met him in person have a very different impression. So I take into account that I only have a limited knowledge of anyone online and we all have our differences anyway. There's room for all of us in here, though vfr400 may well disagree! :D
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I quite like him really
Like the Americans I do love a "Legitimate Target"
And like them I'm prepared to be somewhat elastic in that classification :cool:
 
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oldgroaner

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Toda'ys comedy from the Ruling raving loony party
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UK could play off EU against US by holding parallel post-Brexit trade talks

It follows reports in The Sunday Times that Johnson's ministers are split over how best to negotiate a new trade deal with the EU, with some figures, including Dominic Raab and Liz Truss, reportedly pushing for parallel talks with the US to put pressure on the EU.

I would love to see how that would work!
 

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