Brexit, for once some facts.

[Barry Shittpeas]

Quick question please. How do I stop this site sending me an email every time someone posts on this thread, or reacts in anyway to something I post please? I have been into preferences and turned off email notifications. I just want to see a little red number next to the bell if someone reacts. Thanks

 

[flecc]

If we did so do you think terrorist attacks would subside or increase?

Its quite easy for us all to be anti American and see them as aggressors but in many ways we have their presence and power to thank for the freedom we do enjoy in west.

Its a serious question. Are America, and ourselves, seen as responsible for current terror attacks and aggression in middle east or do we see these actions as responsible for the lack of it in West?
Are they causing or containing the issues? I wish I knew.
Trump has just made a massive demonstration of their capability killing an individual. Will it make Iran consider their realistic position without killing more?

I think the attacks would subside sooner if we withdrew, since we in the West are in part causing them them.

There are multiple facets to their source, commencing with the stupidity of our unprovoked attacks in the Crusades initially triggering their hatred.

But at the root of the conflict throughout the last 1000 years is the fundamental incompatibility of Islam, which is basically rigid and unchanging over time, with our Western values and beliefs which are both different and constantly evolving with ever increasing divergence. This is why we are best apart.

Our more recent involvements in Middle East conflict merely serve to maintain and reinforce their opposition on each and every occasion.

We need to agree to differ and leave each other to live our separate ways.
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[vfr400]

Howdy and Happy New Year.

I have been lurking around these parts. The pages are interesting. I have read some, but not all of them.

Very interesting. Can you tell us how you found you way to this thread as there are no links to it in the forum anywhere? That makes me suspicious.

 

[flecc]

Very interesting. Can you tell us how you found you way to this thread as there are no links to it in the forum anywhere? That makes me suspicious.

There's this Forums page link which shows the Charging Post Forum, most frequently displaying this thread. In fact as I type this your above post is displayed there.
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[Barry Shittpeas]

Very interesting. Can you tell us how you found you way to this thread as there are no links to it in the forum anywhere? That makes me suspicious.

Yikes, I’m under suspicion. Are you the forum Policeman?

Don’t you need to tell me what I’m suspected of doing & then caution me and offer free legal advice before asking me questions?

 

[oldgroaner]

Apparently the WhiteHouse did notify,using the proper channels ,Congress of its attack on Iraq, after the event.

Rather reminiscent of the Japanese declaration of war December 7th 1941

We are not living in a real world anymore
Has anyone else wondered about that, or is just me?

 

[oldgroaner]

Yikes, I’m under suspicion. Are you the forum Policeman?

Don’t you need to tell me what I’m suspected of doing & then caution me and offer free legal advice before asking me questions?

I have this character on ignore, if that gives you a clue, carry on as you are.
Perhaps the fact it's only three days to the Full moon may be the reason he's back

 

[Woosh]

And what is Trumps new stroke of genius?
"If the Iraq government insists American troops leave the country he will slap severe sanctions on them"
The message is unfortunately very clear

he did say that the US would go if Iraq repays all the 'investment costs' - apparently they have a very big air base there.

 

[daveboy]

If as you suggest "Nobody believes they would stop their Nuclear program," what was the point of Boris and co supporting the agreement?
You are contradicting yourself,

So Boris (who you keep calling a liar) supporting something makes it true??
Then you have the cheek to accuse me of contradicting myself. Iran has nuclear power stations and Uranium mines and processing facilities, if they had found these in Iraq the invasion would have had a bit more credibility.

 

[vfr400]

There's this Forums page link which shows the Charging Post Forum, most frequently displaying this thread. In fact as I type this your above post is displayed there.
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I wasn't asking you, Flecc. I was asking a newcomer how to find their way here. Suspicion level has now gone up since Mr Shitpass didn't answer a simple question with a simple answer. I still await enlightenment.

Flecc, I know you to be a thinking person with a lot of experience of all the new people that come to pedelecs forum. Have you ever seen before a newcomer join the pedelecs forum, then find their way to this very difficult to find thread (not even Google will bring you here unless you know what to type) and then post only in this Brexit thread without a single comment about electric bikes?

Did you not notice that since admin changed the forum layout, virtually no new people have joined this Brexit thread?

 

[oldgroaner]

So Boris (who you keep calling a liar) supporting something makes it true??
Then you have the cheek to accuse me of contradicting myself. Iran has nuclear power stations and Uranium mines and processing facilities, if they had found these in Iraq the invasion would have had a bit more credibility.

Not at all Boris isn't the only one is he? and the agreement predates him by many years. The power stations by the way were Russian built, and this may interest you.
"President Eisenhower visited Iran's Shah Reza Pahlavi in Tehran in 1959. The U.S. had begun working with Iran to launch its nuclear program two years earlier and would provide Iran with its first nuclear research reactor in the 1960s, at Tehran University

Bit of a joke don't you think, that America gave Iran their first Nuclear reactor?
However it is a huge step to go from a reactor to a working weapon, and the agreement was to limit the production of enhanced Uranium which is only the first stage of the big leap of technology required to make a bomb

The contradiction is in your statement "Nobody believes they would stop their Nuclear program "
perhaps this too will help
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/nuke/RL34544.pdf
"The United States has assessed that Tehran possesses the technological and industrial capacity to produce nuclear weapons. But Iran has not yet mastered all of the necessary technologies for building such weapons. Whether Iran has a viable design for a nuclear weapon is unclear. A National Intelligence Estimate made public in 2007 assessed that Tehran “halted its nuclear weapons program” in 2003. The estimate, however, also assessed that Tehran is “keeping open the option to develop nuclear weapons” and that any decision to end a nuclear weapons program is “inherently reversible.” U.S. intelligence officials have reaffirmed this judgment on several occasions. "

In short the agreement was worth preserving
The contradiction is in your statement "Nobody believes they would stop their Nuclear program "

They did and it was monitored
https://www.iaea.org › newscenter › focus › iran

There are problems but at least there was dialogue and this has delayed the day when they get nukes, unless of course they can get Pakistan say to give them the technology.

 

[daveboy]

At the moment I would be more worried about a "Dirty Bomb" although the damage it could do would be limited, the Psychological effect on the UK or the USA would be massive.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

I wasn't asking you, Flecc. I was asking a newcomer how to find their way here. Suspicion level has now gone up since Mr Shitpass didn't answer a simple question with a simple answer. I still await enlightenment.

Oh no, enhanced suspicion level! The forum owners have clearly put their best man on this case. It must be me what done it!

I am still waiting to be told what it is that I am suspected of doing and under what authority you are investigating me. That is a reasonable request, given the circumstances.

It's Mr Shittpeas actually, but you may call me Barry, we are all friends on here.

 

[flecc]

Did you not notice that since admin changed the forum layout, virtually no new people have joined this Brexit thread?

When Admin changed the access I found the Charging Post immediately the logical way, through the forums page, hence my posting that link which anyone could have used when seeing the Brexit word in the current threads listing. Also there are some other cycling forums with contributors who've remarked critically about the Pedelecs Brexit thread, so those could trigger looking at the pedelecs forums page to find the thread.

I'm not really concerned who enters any thread here since they are publically open to anyone under any identity. Whoever Barry is doesn't matter to me, he is entitled to post his contribution.
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[Barry Shittpeas]

At the moment I would be more worried about a "Dirty Bomb" although the damage it could do would be limited, the Psychological effect on the UK or the USA would be massive.

I'm even more worried about a "Dirty Protest" by Boris. Yak, just the thought...

 

[oldgroaner]

he did say that the US would go if Iraq repays all the 'investment costs' - apparently they have a very big air base there.

Bit of cheek asking for iraq to pay for the Us airbase!

 

[Zlatan]

I think the Russian pact, would have seriously discomforted those same people. They had seen Hitler as a bulwark against Communism.The mood music changed after the invasion of Poland

And Finland...

 

[Zlatan]

Oh no, enhanced suspicion level! The forum owners have clearly put their best man on this case. It must be me what done it!

I am still waiting to be told what it is that I am suspected of doing and under what authority you are investigating me. That is a reasonable request, given the circumstances.

It's Mr Shittpeas actually, but you may call me Barry, we are all friends on here.

Ignore VFR, this is about his 5th incarnation. Bit rich him asking you, and so what if you, ve changed your ID. Nobody knows anybody anyhow.
Matters not who you are or why you are here. Welcome. VFR go back talking technical rubbish,you seem skilled at that.

 

[vfr400]

Ignore VFR, this is about his 5th incarnation. Bit rich him asking you, and so what if you, ve changed your ID. Nobody knows anybody anyhow.
Matters not who you are or why you are here. Welcome. VFR go back talking technical rubbish,you seem skilled at that.

I left the forum and cancelled my account. The only way back was with a new one. That makes two incarnations. One and one makes two. Didn't you learn that at school?

I've never done anything illegitimate on this forum, nor have I ever pretended to be someone I'm not.

Sorry if being rich is a problem for you, but I earned all my money legitimately by hard work. I never exploited anyone and I paid all taxes due. I use my money (and time) to help everyone I can, so you shouldn't have any beef with it.

 

[Woosh]

Bit of cheek asking for iraq to pay for the Us airbase!

they (Iraqis) have signed a ceasefire treaty when Saddam's regime failed. The treaty requires Iraqi government to indemnify the USA all their costs in the 'liberation' an accupation of Iraq.
That's why they pump oil. The money pays for US bombs before food.
US soldiers are not going to leave voluntarily.