Brexit, for once some facts.

[50Hertz]

Just listening to Nancy Pelosi on the wireless. She’s either pi$$ed or she’s had a stroke.

 

[flecc]

But.

That's not the 'if' that happened.

Sadly. With our undoubted strengths we could have done wonders in improving the EU and being instrumental in rectifying its many faults which I've always recognised.

But I've still always supported the project since its ambitions for social justice are so desirable. Of course with such a huge project involving so many such diverse nations it was always going to be difficult and very long term.

But I have faith they will eventually get there to a fair extent and be an example to the rest of the world's largest nations.
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[Danidl]

‘It’s a valid question. I think that if you went to live in France for example, you would want to return to England pretty quickly.

I speak from first hand experience when I say their general food shopping is appalling. supermarkets smell unclean and i believe the food they sell is of a lower quality than that in the U.K. Their retail after sales is shoddy, particularly technology and electrical good, and if a product develops a fault within warranty, it’s standard practice to give you the FO. They literally laugh at the European Consumer rights legislation. I’m talking about the Equivalent of Curys & John Lewis here as well as small independents.

French government departments, health care, law, social care are all hostile. They will refuse point blank to converse in English or to provide any form of interpretation.

If you went to France, you’d be back here within six months asking to live in Boris’s Brexit Land. You’d do that because it’s better here when you are a needy and vulnerable person. They all return when they reach that stage, because we look after people better here.

50 your experience of France in no way corresponds. with mine. In each particular you list ,I have counter experience. That includes the range of technology on offer, the quality of food ,vegetables in supermarkets , especially the quality of food in smaller lower cost restaurants and road houses . I have had limited need of French medical assistance, but it was extremely competent..they don't go in for bedside manner..but they provide superb medicine,and from neighbours I see excellent long term after care. The number of 90 years plus living in the village is startling.
I am reminded of a story I recently read, involving a old man sitting at his porch with a house for sale next door. The car pulls up and a brash American gets out and looks over the house and then calls over to him." Say what kind of neighborhood is this ?".
The old man responds." Well tell me what they were like where you come from?".
The Driver says "Ugly , ugly people, always interfering, telling you what to do, I hated them,and I needed out .".
The old man says "well they are like that here"
So the Driver grunts a expletive and drives off.
Later another car drives bye, sees the property and the old man and asks the same question,and the same response from the old man.
They say. "They were the greatest you could get, always looking out for you, giving tips on where to get things done,what were the most suitable paints for the house. We are sorry that we had to leave"
The old man say "well they are like that here"

 

[Danidl]

Well our pensions and healthcare comes from an insurance policy which we buy. However we have decided to pay out to many non-policy holders. There is only so much money.

Imagine if car insurance was the same. Companies fixing cars for non policy holders. They’d go bust and genuine policy holders would suffer reduced service. That’s what’s happened with National Insurance. They’ve fixed issues for non-policy holders, so those with a policy don’t get what they were expecting. We can’t have it all ways.

So you don't know about car insurance then ?. As part of the licence provision in being allowed offer car insurance, the companies are obligated to protect protect persons who are hit by NONINSURED drivers. A consortium of the insurance companies pays into a fund,to cover damage to third parties from non insured drivers. Of course this Motor Insurance Bureau is then entitled to sue the non insured driver for the costs.

 

[Woosh]

Sadly. With our undoubted strengths we could have done wonders in improving the EU and being instrumental in rectifying its many faults which I've always recognised.

But I've still always supported the project since its ambitions for social justice are so desirable. Of course with such a huge project involving so many such diverse nations it was always going to be difficult and very long term.

But I have faith they will eventually get there to a fair extent and be an example to the rest of the world's largest nations.
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we are much more capitalistic and ego-centric than the continentals.
They'll get there faster without than with us, even with Albania to replace us.

 

[50Hertz]

50 your experience of France in no way corresponds. with mine. In each particular you list ,I have counter experience. That includes the range of technology on offer, the quality of food ,vegetables in supermarkets , especially the quality of food in smaller lower cost restaurants and road houses . I have had limited need of French medical assistance, but it was extremely competent..they don't go in for bedside manner..but they provide superb medicine,and from neighbours I see excellent long term after care. The number of 90 years plus living in the village is startling.
I am reminded of a story I recently read, involving a old man sitting at his porch with a house for sale next door. The car pulls up and a brash American gets out and looks over the house and then calls over to him." Say what kind of neighborhood is this ?".
The old man responds." Well tell me what they were like where you come from?".
The Driver says "Ugly , ugly people, always interfering, telling you what to do, I hated them,and I needed out .".
The old man says "well they are like that here"
So the Driver grunts a expletive and drives off.
Later another car drives bye, sees the property and the old man and asks the same question,and the same response from the old man.
They say. "They were the greatest you could get, always looking out for you, giving tips on where to get things done,what were the most suitable paints for the house. We are sorry that we had to leave"
The old man say "well they are like that here"

Maybe, but your reference point, Ireland, is different to mine, England.

For Example:

I imagine that if you took a person from a poverty stricken area of India, with sewage flowing through their front garden, bugs in the kitchen and food, and put them in a U.K. prison with showers, flushing toilets, showers and hot meals, they’d consider that to be a step up. It doesn’t mean I’d like to live in a U.K. prison though.

It’s all a matter of your current standards and expectations.

 

[Zlatan]

So you don't know about car insurance then ?. As part of the licence provision in being allowed offer car insurance, the companies are obligated to protect protect persons who are hit by NONINSURED drivers. A consortium of the insurance companies pays into a fund,to cover damage to third parties from non insured drivers. Of course this Motor Insurance Bureau is then entitled to sue the non insured driver for the costs.

Well try making a claim when you arent insured. The scheme you describe is to compensate the insured drivers when involved with uninsured who are to blame, or for 3rd party injuries. Not to pay the uninsured themselves. There is a massive difference.
But shut up, whats it got to do with you what happens in UK? Interfering again Danidl.

 

[Danidl]

Maybe, but your reference point, Ireland, is different to mine, England.

For Example:

I imagine that if you took a person from a poverty stricken area of India, with sewage flowing through their front garden, bugs in the kitchen and food, and put them in a U.K. prison with showers, flushing toilets, showers and hot meals, they’d consider that to be a step up. It doesn’t mean I’d like to live in a U.K. prison though.

It’s all a matter of your current standards and expectations.

My points of reference are Ireland, France, and the UK. I was subsidising my daughter there for a number of years, I have family there and relations in Wales, London and Liverpool,and nephews scattered elsewhere. My experience of living in Mayfair is however extremely limited!.

 

[50Hertz]

So you don't know about car insurance then ?. As part of the licence provision in being allowed offer car insurance, the companies are obligated to protect protect persons who are hit by NONINSURED drivers. A consortium of the insurance companies pays into a fund,to cover damage to third parties from non insured drivers. Of course this Motor Insurance Bureau is then entitled to sue the non insured driver for the costs.

Yes, yes we all know about that. Nothing new in your post.

Try not taking out insurance, and then trying to get your car fixed when you have an accident. What you described is to look after POLICY HOLDERS hit by a NON POLICY HOLDER. It’s NOT to repair the cars of people who have no insurance. That’s what’s happening with National Insurance, we are fixing problems for NON POLICY HOLDERS. Why do you always get things wrong?

 

[Woosh]

Maybe, but your reference point, Ireland, is different to mine, England.

For Example:

I imagine that if you took a person from a poverty stricken area of India, with sewage flowing through their front garden, bugs in the kitchen and food, and put them in a U.K. prison with showers, flushing toilets, showers and hot meals, they’d consider that to be a step up. It doesn’t mean I’d like to live in a U.K. prison though.

It’s all a matter of your current standards and expectations.

houses/flats in some areas are cheap for a reason. You wouldn't buy a flat in St Dennis, Paris would you? if you want a fair comparison, choose a place with the same housing and outgoing costs.
Paris is hyper expensive though.

 

[50Hertz]

Well try making a claim when you arent insured. The scheme you describe is to compensate the insured drivers when involved with uninsured who are to blame. Not to pay the uninsured themselves. There is a massive difference.
But shut up, whats it got to do with you what happens in UK? Interfering again Danidl.

Thank you. I’m sure he deliberately gets things wrong. No body can be so wrist often without it being a deliberate act.

 

[Danidl]

Well try making a claim when you arent insured. The scheme you describe is to compensate the insured drivers when involved with uninsured who are to blame. Not to pay the uninsured themselves. There is a massive difference.
But shut up, whats it got to do with you what happens in UK? Interfering again Danidl.

It also pays for the uninsured innocent pedestrian or cyclist when hit by an uninsured car driver. What you fail to realise is that I have,as have the nearly 6 million of us on this Island" skin in the game." A section of the UK is legally linked with us. The WA mark 2 does not alter that fact.

 

[flecc]

we are much more capitalistic and ego-centric than the continentals.
They'll get there faster without than with us, even with Albania to replace us.

In some respects true, but there are areas where we have much to teach them by way of example. Racism for example, many EU countries are very retarded in that respect.

One day we'll rejoin them anyway, though that may be distant.
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[50Hertz]

It also pays for the uninsured innocent pedestrian or cyclist when hit by an uninsured car driver. What you fail to realise is that I have,as have the nearly 6 million of us on this Island skin in the game. A section of the UK is legally linked with us. The WA mark 2 does not alter that fact.

That is compensating the innocent party for an act by an un insured motorist. The person who owns the offending car will receive nothing for any personal injury or damage to his vehicle in the event of an accident.

If you draw a comparison to my National Insurance example, metaphorically speaking, National Insurance fixes the cars of the people who caused the accident and are the culpable Party.

 

[Zlatan]

It also pays for the uninsured innocent pedestrian or cyclist when hit by an uninsured car driver. What you fail to realise is that I have,as have the nearly 6 million of us on this Island" skin in the game." A section of the UK is legally linked with us. The WA mark 2 does not alter that fact.

I said that, using term 3rd party. Look it up Danidl.
The scheme you mention is NOT for uninsured drivers to make claims.
You are wrong and still interfering. I have relatives in Jamaica, Australia and Canada. Wouldnt presume to give advice to them about their politics, especially if I were as ill informed as you try to be.
Its strange, I, ve always found your countrymen to be civil, friendly and highly amusing. Are you sure you are Irish.
Shut up.

 

[Zlatan]

That's actually Zlatan's favourite trick. Many's the time I've given him an agree, them found later he's added something extensive I very much disagreed with.
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So you changed your imogi? Whats the problem with me adding further comments? Its never done to deceive. Why involve me in this? We all edit posts.Mine are full of spelling mistakes pre editing(and post sometimes)

 

[50Hertz]

I said that, using term 3rd party. Look it up Danidl.
The scheme you mention is NOT for uninsured drivers to make claims.
You are wrong and still interfering. I have relatives in Jamaica, Australia and Canada. Wouldnt presume to give advice to them about their politics, especially if I were as ill informed as you try to be.
Its strange, I, ve always found your countrymen to be civil, friendly and highly amusing. Are you sure you are Irish.
Shut up.

Danidl gives credibility to the Englishman, Irishman and Scotsman jokes. The ones where the Irishman does something really stupid, or misunderstands with hilarious comic consequences as the punchline.

 

[OxygenJames]

So you changed your imogi? Whats the problem with me adding further comments? Its never done to deceive. Why involve me in this? We all edit posts.Mine are full of spelling mistakes pre editing(and post sometimes)

Testing testing one two three (let's see if Flecc's 'like' is still there.... OK here goes).

Brexit is a great idea and the whole of France is rubbish.

 

[flecc]

So you changed your imogi? Whats the problem with me adding further comments? Its never done to deceive. Why involve me in this? We all edit posts.Mine are full of spelling mistakes pre editing(and post sometimes)

I never suspected it was to deceive, as you say we all edit posts.

I do try not to edit by addition after posting though, preferring to reply twice so as not to accidentally mislead.

Most of my editing is due to my appalling typing. Too often at the end of a sentence when I look up to the screen the text appears to be Hungarian.
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[OxygenJames]

Ha. Yes. It works!