Brexit, for once some facts.

[Zlatan]

You don't have to say - I would fully understand if you don't want to - but can you give me some idea of what it cost?

All included, initial consultations, stay in hospital, op, anaesthetia and follow up was around £10k.But that is 3 years ago. Managed to get physio through NHS, which I had for around 4 months. Was under guidance from Mr Bajwa, so all worked well. Initially I was told NHS would contribute 50%..They didnt but they do have more pressing stuff...
Was expensive but I thought another 5 years good activity was worth it. Think (hope) I, ll get more. It has been excellent. No grumbles with NHS. Was a gamble...

 

[50Hertz]

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You really are inconsistent, the media leading you by the nose.

This has become the new equivalent of spiting, you are a racist, into the face of anyone who dares to question ultra left wing ideals.

Like, you’re a racist, chanting, “you are being influenced by right wing media”, doesn’t work. Labour are finished unless someone pulls the chain and flushed the current prominent players down the pan. They are all soiled with Corbyn. They’ve been supporting him, they can’t suddenly start pretending they are something else, something like a northern toilet cleaner. It’s very very funny to witness this.

 

[jonathan.agnew]

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This has become the new equivalent of spiting, you are a racist, into the face of anyone who dares to question ultra left wing ideals.

Like, you’re a racist, chanting, “you are being influenced by right wing media”, doesn’t work. Labour are finished unless someone pulls the chain and flushed the current prominent players down the pan. They are all soiled with Corbyn. They’ve been supporting him, they can’t suddenly start pretending they are something else, something like a northern toilet cleaner. It’s very very funny to witness this.

I dont want to go as far as suggesting you suffer from forgasms. But you certainly have a knack for getting too excited too soon ( were a few days into a boris cluster****). Hence all the handbrake turns. The **** you and others have brought upon yourselves and us is still approaching the fan. You're incredibly stupid decision does not make labour's position wrong in the long run.

 

[OxygenJames]

All included, initial consultations, stay in hospital, op, anaesthetia and follow up was around £10k.But that is 3 years ago. Managed to get physio through NHS, which I had for around 4 months. Was under guidance from Mr Bajwa, so all worked well. Initially I was told NHS would contribute 50%..They didnt but they do have more pressing stuff...
Was expensive but I thought another 5 years good activity was worth it. Think (hope) I, ll get more. It has been excellent. No grumbles with NHS. Was a gamble...

OK thanks.

 

[flecc]

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This has become the new equivalent of spiting, you are a racist, into the face of anyone who dares to question ultra left wing ideals.

Like, you’re a racist, chanting, “you are being influenced by right wing media”, doesn’t work. Labour are finished unless someone pulls the chain and flushed the current prominent players down the pan. They are all soiled with Corbyn. They’ve been supporting him, they can’t suddenly start pretending they are something else, something like a northern toilet cleaner. It’s very very funny to witness this.

Nonsense. I merely pointed out your inconsistency in criticising current Labour's use of wealthy barristers while extolling the virtues of their using another of their wealthy barristers.

It was the media echo chamber again.
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[50Hertz]

I dont want to go as far as suggesting you suffer from forgasms. But you certainly have a knack for getting too excited too soon ( were a few days into a boris cluster****). Hence all the handbrake turns. The **** you and others have brought upon yourselves and us is still approaching the fan. You're incredibly stupid decision does not make labour's position wrong in the long run.

oh, I fully expect the new Johnson Tory Government to make mistakes, go back on promises and fail to deliver. I believe that is a better situation than a Corbyn & Abbott, miscalculated, fag-packet, make it up as you go along economy. Does that make me a racist or a media follower, or perhaps it’s a non-toilet cleaner this week?

I know, that you know, exactly what those northerners want. They are very poor, not coping and they have no education. They need well healed southerners to take pity on them and to give them some money. It’s just that they are far too stupid and too racist to agree. It must be very frustrating.

 

[Zlatan]

I dont want to go as far as suggesting you suffer from forgasms. But you certainly have a knack for getting too excited too soon ( were a few days into a boris cluster****). Hence all the handbrake turns. The **** you and others have brought upon yourselves and us is still approaching the fan. You're incredibly stupid decision does not make labour's position wrong in the long run.

Which Labour's decision. They never actually made one.
Their manifesto supported Leave in 2017 but they made their mind up to not make a decision by 2019 so advocated another neverendum. Their members, I, d guess, actually supported Remain but putting it to a democratic decision is not really the Labour way, when you have (had) McSkulky pulling Corbyn's leave strings, for reasons I could never fathom. (The sh! te members are called on to vote on is neverending, but we were never asked "Remain" or "Leave". Astonishing really. McSkulky represents 1.5 million workers, who according to Remain propoganda will be out of jobs come Brexit reality. Well how come McSkulky supported Leave? I just wonder if the American connection might just be swaying him. Amazing thing is all you remaining left wing believers never question it??? Please explain both. (but please dont try and explain Labours Brexit stance,you,ve only got 5+ years Tory rule to do so, thats not enough time)
BTW.... Nothing wrong with forgasms. Its natures way. Get it done and go sailing. (or fighting off Sabre tooth tigers, like my old Physiology lecturer used to say. "You dont need an erection when being chased by a bear".)
Some people.....suffer from forgasms... Dont think so. A blessing perhaps.

 

[flecc]

The Tory corruption has started. Their multi millionaire candidate Zac Goldsmith failed to get elected, but undeterred, Boris Johnson has promoted him to the House of Lords and he will still be in the government cabinet as an environment and development minister.

It comes as Nicky Morgan was given a peerage to continue as Culture Secretary – despite quitting as an MP. She will sit as Secretary of State in the unelected chamber barely a year after claiming “I would not serve in a Boris Johnson cabinet” in September 2018.

The Electoral Reform Society said elevating Goldsmith to the Lords would send the message that the upper chamber is an “absurd insurance policy” for MPs who lose their seats. Darren Hughes, chief executive of the ERS, said: “The bloated House of Lords is already packed full of defeated and former MPs – over 200 of them.

The Tory version of democracy.
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[50Hertz]

The Tory corruption has started. Their multi millionaire candidate Zac Goldsmith failed to get elected, but undeterred, Boris Johnson has promoted him to the House of Lords and he will still be in the government cabinet as an environment and development minister.

It comes as Nicky Morgan was given a peerage to continue as Culture Secretary – despite quitting as an MP. She will sit as Secretary of State in the unelected chamber barely a year after claiming “I would not serve in a Boris Johnson cabinet” in September 2018.

The Electoral Reform Society said elevating Goldsmith to the Lords would send the message that the upper chamber is an “absurd insurance policy” for MPs who lose their seats.

The Tory version of democracy.
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Is that a bit like Shami Chakrabarti? The unelected non-MP shadow Attorney General? The one who was elevated to the HoL? The same Shami Chakrabarti that supports the, Public School abolishing Labour Party, whilst simultaneously making use of Public Schools to educate her son?

I guess this makes me a racist, media following non-toilet cleaner for mentioning this?

Labour’s version of democracy.

 

[jonathan.agnew]

Which Labour's decision. They never actually made one.
Their manifesto supported Leave in 2017 but they made their mind up to not make a decision by 2019 so advocated another neverendum. Their members, I, d guess, actually supported Remain but putting it to a democratic decision is not really the Labour way, when you have (had) McSkulky pulling Corbyn's leave strings, for reasons I could never fathom. (The sh! te members are called on to vote on is neverending, but we were never asked "Remain" or "Leave". Astonishing really. McSkulky represents 1.5 million workers, who according to Remain propoganda will be out of jobs come Brexit reality. Well how come McSkulky supported Leave? I just wonder if the American connection might just be swaying him. Amazing thing is all you remaining left wing believers never question it??? Please explain both. (but please dont try and explain Labours Brexit stance,you,ve only got 5+ years Tory rule to do so, thats not enough time)
BTW.... Nothing wrong with forgasms. Its natures way. Get it done and go sailing. (or fighting off Sabre tooth tigers, like my old Physiology lecturer used to say. "You dont need an erection when being chased by a bear".)
Some people.....suffer from forgasms... Dont think so. A blessing perhaps.

A customs union. Frictionless trade with the eu. Instead of boris populist horsehit, that's knocked 2p of the exchange rate in as many days. And will do much more as his policy vacume become more visible. I prefer orgasms to forgasms while running from a bear. But, as peter cooke would say, that's a personal preference (and I didn't vote leave)

 

[50Hertz]

you certainly have a knack for getting too excited too soon ( were a few days into a boris cluster****).

Is that a bit like getting too excited about Brexit? At least Johnson’s premiership has started, you, OG and flecc are getting a cockstand about Brexit, and that hasn’t even happened yet. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! (Is that racist? I said black.)

 

[flecc]

Is that a bit like Shami Chakrabarti? The unelected non-MP shadow Attorney General? The one who was elevated to the HoL? The same Shami Chakrabarti that supports the, Public School abolishing Labour Party, whilst simultaneously making use of Public Schools to educate her son?

Yes, but never remotely comparing to the Tories large scale use of this abuse. They even had a fairly recent prime minister from the House of Lords who wasn't elected, Sir Alec Douglas Home.
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[flecc]

Well here we are at the fourth Brexit Christmas, so in the spirit of the season and the times, I wish you all

******** A Merry Brexmas *********

************* and a ***************

******** Happy New Deal ********
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[50Hertz]

Yes, but never remotely comparing to the Tories large scale use of this abuse. They even had a fairly recent prime minister from the House of Lords who wasn't elected, Sir Alec Douglas Home.
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Ah, I thought so. It’s ok for Labour to do it, but not the Conservatives. Just the same as we can’t send our children to public school, but you can if you are a Labour MP. Got it now, but I must be a racist, thanks

 

[Zlatan]

A customs union. Frictionless trade with the eu. Instead of boris populist horsehit, that's knocked 2p of the exchange rate in as many days. And will do much more as his policy vacume become more visible. I prefer orgasms to forgasms while running from a bear. But, as peter cooke would say, that's a personal preference (and I didn't vote leave)

You get off being chased by a bear. Each to his own I suppose...
And what makes you think any of Corbyn's "deal" would have got any further than May's. His own party wanted to fully remain, McSkulky wanted to fully leave. Your argument is completely hypothetical. Wishful thinking and would have taken years even assuming it was attainable.
His own party would have voted against him let alone Tories.
He, d have needed to unite his entire party AND had a working majority ofvat least 50...Was never going to happen. Best he could have hoped for was a small majority. Had it been split parliament I dont even think he, d have been leader. But all academic. You off bear hunting..??? Good luck.
And BTW you did vote leave. If my memory serves me right you voted Labour 2017...You voted leave.

 

[oldgroaner]

Well here we are at the fourth Brexit Christmas, so in the spirit of the season and the times, I wish you all

******** A Merry Brexmas *********

************* and a ***************

******** Happy New Deal ********
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................Junked Workers rights.................

.................Parliament to have no say on the deal he negotiates...............

................And the promised increase on the living wage is now an aspiration not a promise.............

.................making a law against an extension period ............................

................And this only the first day.......................................

Truly I can find no justification whatsoever for not regarding anyone who voted for this Government as deserving all they are going to get.
It is all alas going exactly as expected.

Note carefully the bombs he has lit under his backside

Parliament to have no say on the deal he negotiates
.making a law against an extension period

His problem after that is to make Mays deal look like the best thing since sliced bread, otherwise he will be remembered for crashing out without a deal.
Not how an egotist like Boris wants History to remember him.

 

[Zlatan]

.................Parliament to have no say on the deal he negotiates...............

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Well there's a blessing.

 

[oldgroaner]

You get off being chased by a bear. Each to his own I suppose...
And what makes you think any of Corbyn's "deal" would have got any further than May's. His own party wanted to fully remain, McSkulky wanted to fully leave. Your argument is completely hypothetical. Wishful thinking and would have taken years even assuming it was attainable.
His own party would have voted against him let alone Tories.
He, d have needed to unite his entire party AND had a working majority ofvat least 50...Was never going to happen. Best he could have hoped for was a small majority. Had it been split parliament I dont even think he, d have been leader. But all academic. You off bear hunting..??? Good luck.
And BTW you did vote leave. If my memory serves me right you voted Labour 2017...You voted leave.

And you voted Corbyn or so you say.
Bit odd to say the least don't you think?
I voted for Labour because it seemed the best chance of a referendum, nothing more, nothing less, what's your reason?

 

[oldgroaner]

Well there's a blessing.

Absolutely it's all on him and people will note that there are no valid excuses.

 

[Danidl]

................Junked Workers rights.................

.................Parliament to have no say on the deal he negotiates...............

................And the promised increase on the living wage is now an aspiration not a promise.............

.................making a law against an extension period ............................

................And this only the first day.......................................

Truly I can find no justification whatsoever for not regarding anyone who voted for this Government as deserving all they are going to get.
It is all alas going exactly as expected.

Note carefully the bombs he has lit under his backside

Parliament to have no say on the deal he negotiates
.making a law against an extension period

His problem after that is to make Mays deal look like the best thing since sliced bread, otherwise he will be remembered for crashing out without a deal.
Not how an egotist like Boris wants History to remember him.

Of course Parliament has a say in the deal he negotiates. His 360 acolytes are all MPs with exactly the same power as his. That they will choose to say nothing is still a choice and is a say.