Brexit, for once some facts.

OxygenJames

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You mean a load of mugs threw money at him
You're such a dongbat sometimes. The issues he was talking about - mainly immigration - were already issues a large number of people were concerned about but nobody in the political class wanted to face for fear of being called 'racist'. Of course they threw money at him - they agreed with him.

You don't seem to realise that public opinion is what eventually controls parliament - not the other way around.
 
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oldgroaner

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You're such a dongbat sometimes. The issues he was talking about - mainly immigration - were already issues a large number of people were concerned about but nobody in the political class wanted to face for fear of being called 'racist'. Of course they threw money at him - they agreed with him.

You don't seem to realise that public opinion is what eventually controls parliament - not the other way around.
Agree entirely, except for the word "eventually" and he was from the NF wasn't he?
 

oldgroaner

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Wherein lies the problem. Labour had and have no intentions of deals with any "not true labour". They are exactly the opposite of what they preach. Its a form of racism but slanted towards ideology over heritage.
They cant make agreements between themselves for good of party or that of country.
Tories on the other hand have managed ERG, DUP, BXP and others within their ranks. Its probably why they won.
Have you ever heard a Tory say "He, s not really Tory is he". Seems to cover a much broader spectrum than "Labour".
So your plan is gather all the worst elements and nutters in one group?
Sounds more like an "Equal opportunities mafia" like the Conservatives
 

oldgroaner

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Farage is what prevented any real far-right parties getting a foothold. This country remains pretty much the only EU country where the far right has not ever held power or had significant support. He deserves a knighthood for keeping that tradition alive.
Meanwhile on this side of the Mirror the far right are using Boris as a tool
 

OxygenJames

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Boris nor anybody else from the government will be attending Davos. What a brilliant decision.

At the 2016 meeting of the world's richest 0.00001% every single attendee was opposed to the UK leaving the EU.

These people didn't get that rich by worrying about the common wealth, nor about you and me.

And yet Remainers try to claim that Leave was a corporatist conspiracy.
 

OxygenJames

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Apologies Left knee joint got me up at 3:00 AM Brain stayed in bed
Apology accepted.

You have knee trouble? Me too. My left too. Had my right hip done earlier in the year but I am hoping the knee will last at least a few more years because the operations for those you take longer to recover from and have a lower success rate.
 

Zlatan

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Apology accepted.

You have knee trouble? Me too. My left too. Had my right hip done earlier in the year but I am hoping the knee will last at least a few more years because the operations for those you take longer to recover from and have a lower success rate.
Was offered new knee but turned it down. Had stem cell treatment 3 years ago instead. Not perfect but way better than it was. Windsurfing/skiing/sailing on it again.
 

Zlatan

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So your plan is gather all the worst elements and nutters in one group?
Sounds more like an "Equal opportunities mafia" like the Conservatives
Your solution is to wait... The labour party we, ve had past 5 years or so is the worst in its history. Intolerant and pretentious. Posters are regularly posting about Trump thi, USA other, NHS being sold to American industrialists but never mention our Labour Party's connections to USA. Time that was examined. McCluskey wanting to Leave???
 

oldgroaner

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Boris nor anybody else from the government will be attending Davos. What a brilliant decision.

At the 2016 meeting of the world's richest 0.00001% every single attendee was opposed to the UK leaving the EU.

These people didn't get that rich by worrying about the common wealth, nor about you and me.

And yet Remainers try to claim that Leave was a corporatist conspiracy.
When the Like of Tice and Banks were behing it? great comedy you come out with, Hows"Make America Great doing?"
 

oldgroaner

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Your solution is to wait... The labour party we, ve had past 5 years or so is the worst in its history. Intolerant and pretentious. Posters are regularly posting about Trump thi, USA other, NHS being sold to American industrialists but never mention our Labour Party's connections to USA. Time that was examined. McCluskey wanting to Leave???
Alright, what is your solution? and since you are a member of this party perhaps you could outline these connections with America you mentioned?
Which faction was doing that and somehow it escaped mention in a press desperate to use even the weakest of ammunition against them.
 

oldgroaner

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Apology accepted.

You have knee trouble? Me too. My left too. Had my right hip done earlier in the year but I am hoping the knee will last at least a few more years because the operations for those you take longer to recover from and have a lower success rate.
I'm hoping to make my knee last as I really need to carry on for my wife's sake, put simply I cant afford the time off.
 

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