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oldgroaner

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The time that he claimed to watch the Queen’s speech was before it had been broadcast. No amount of TV catchup or TV recording devices can dig him out of that one. I think he was doing a Boris.
I just watched the video clip, he was asked "D you sit down to watch the Queens speech Mr Corbyn"
He replied "It's on in the morning usually, we watch it some of the time."
Know something, I would probably have made the same mistake, as if it's on I watch it but I couldn't tell you when either.
How is that a big lie that deserves full front page spreads in the Tory rags?
 

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Sat agreeing with socialism, watching sun set, drinking G&T on balcony. Thats real socialism these days.
I expect all this GE mallorkyto be sorted by my return. Stop messing.
 

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He said he doesnt agree with it. Read the post OG.
I did and thhis comment he made was loaded
"but it’s not done under cover of socialism, as per Labour. "
Which quite clearly infers that different rules apply
perhaps you should try reading his post and understanding it.
 

50Hertz

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I did and thhis comment he made was loaded
"but it’s not done under cover of socialism, as per Labour. "
Which quite clearly infers that different rules apply
perhaps you should try reading his post and understanding it.
No, I’m saying Hand on Cock is upfront. He doesn’t pretend to be one thing whilst doing something different.

For Example:

Want to abolish private education whilst simultaneously sending their own children to private schools ( Abbott & Chakrabarti)

Complaining about excessive boss’s pay whilst accepting £140K + a £400K loan. Mc Cluskey

The above is typical socialism. Pretend to be charitable but act like a greedy bastard.

Tory’s say they are greedy bastards and act like greedy bastards. I find that more palatable. Not acceptable, but palatable.
 

oldgroaner

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No, I’m saying Hand on Cock is upfront. He doesn’t pretend to be one thing whilst doing something different.

For Example:

Want to abolish private education whilst simultaneously sending their own children to private schools ( Abbott & Chakrabarti)

Complaining about excessive boss’s pay whilst accepting £140K + a £400K loan. Mc Cluskey

The above is typical socialism. Pretend to be charitable but act like a greedy bastard.

Tory’s say they are greedy bastards and act like greedy bastards. I find that more palatable. Not acceptable, but palatable.
Just a small point on this
"Complaining about excessive boss’s pay whilst accepting £140K + a £400K loan. Mc Cluskey"

Excessive boss's pay are well over the multiple millions of pounds mark, not in the hundreds of thousands, and that is without the bonuses share deals and tax swindles.

And this is a lie too
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No, I’m saying Hand on Cock is upfront. He doesn’t pretend to be one thing whilst doing something different."
Yet accepts huge sums like this?
"Newly appointed health secretary Matt Hancock received £32,000 in donations from the chairman of a think tank which critics say is trying to “abolish the NHS”.

How much more upfront can a minister responsible for the NHS be, when he takes large sums of money from it's mortal enemies?
 
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Complaining about excessive boss’s pay whilst accepting £140K + a £400K loan. Mc Cluskey
You really do have weirdly distorted views.

£140 k is a very low salary for someone who leads the 1.2 million member second largest union. The bosses pay he complains of is in millions a year with multi million bonuses.

If he had a salary more commensurate with his post he wouldn't need a loan to buy a property. It is a loan after all, which has to be paid back.
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You really do have weirdly distorted views.

£140 k is a very low salary for someone who leads the 1.2 million member second largest union. The bosses pay he complains of is in millions a year with multi million bonuses.

If he had a salary more commensurate with his post he wouldn't need a loan to buy a property. It is a loan after all, which has to be paid back.
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k140 and a 400k loan just about buys a one bedroom flat in much of london
 

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You really do have weirdly distorted views.

£140 k is a very low salary for someone who leads the 1.2 million member second largest union. The bosses pay he complains of is in millions a year with multi million bonuses.

If he had a salary more commensurate with his post he wouldn't need a loan to buy a property. It is a loan after all, which has to be paid back.
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He doesn’t NEED that much money. Many of his members live on less than 1/5 of that amount. Why not give up some of the £140 K in the true spirit of sharing wealth? Oh, I forgot, when it comes to it, he’s inherently a greedy bastard, like most other humans.
 

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k140 and a 400k loan just about buys a one bedroom flat in much of london
I’m sure one or two of his union members would be delighted to receive those rewards.

Do what other less well paid than him do. Move out to an affordable area and spend two hours each way on a train to and from work.
 
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He doesn’t NEED that much money. Many of his members live on less than 1/5 of that amount. Why not give up some of the £140 K in the true spirit of sharing wealth? Oh, I forgot, when it comes to it, he’s inherently a greedy bastard, like most other humans.
Flecc, its not just on money this gentleman has distorted views. As others have said 140k is a very good salary, but not excessive and is about 3 times the average industrial wage... So hardly excessive.
 
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Flecc, its not just on money this gentleman has distorted views. As others have said 140k is a very good salary, but not excessive and is about 3 times the average industrial wage... So hardly excessive.
My distorted views have served me well.

As a socialist, Mc Cluskey does not need £140K, that’s all I’m
saying.
 
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Len Mc Cluskey, the £140K+ a year boss of Unite, a union representing some of the poorest paid people. Len Mc Cluskey, benefitting from a £400K loan from Unite to buy property. Len Mc Cluskey enjoys a 3%+ pay rise whilst the people he represents get 0% or 1%.

I look forward to Mc Cluskey sharing his wealth with his membership. Except they never do. They never do because they are only socialists when it comes to other people’s money.

I have no issues with socialism, but the bill for it always falls on the PAYE monkeys because they are easy prey. Big corporations and the very wealthy get out of paying because they are too smart for the politicians, and the politicians have power, so they don’t pay either. All that will happen under Corbyn is business as usual for large businesses and billionaires, with a big squeeze on earners. You can write the script now.
Lol!

‘I have no issues with socialism ‘

You are a fraud.

You are a liar.

You would jump off a cliff if Johnson told you to.

For shame
 

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It was a Ryan Air flight wasnt it? Passengers have demanded their fares back. Going to cost O Leary £112.50 to do so. Who cares? Besides if it was diverted/delayed passengers just had longer to prepare for bouncy, noisy landing. I, m sure Ryan Air planes have had shock absorbers removed from suspension.
Landed in Madeira other day. Thats rather interesting. Plane approached sideways.. I was looking down runway from seat over wing... (A Tui flight, nice and gentle tho)
Google Madeira landings. It's enough to put you off coming here.
I, m getting my air miles in before its banned by Thunberg.
Mind you Madeira aint all its cracked up to be. Its green because it fecking rains all time. Wind is fluky too. Warmer than Filey though.

That’s why I wouldn’t go to Madeira unless I was being paid a lot.

So you’re now on the side of o Leary?
 

oldgroaner

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Desperation is creeping in to continue down this line.
In the Telegraph
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Jeremy Corbyn running 'institutionally anti-Semitic' Labour Party says damning dossier

Does it never occur to this dreadful rag, that this sort of campaign will do nothing to promote goodwill between the pubic and the Jewish community?
Perhaps the result will not be to the advantage of the Torys if the general public get fed up of this so clearly biassed a a campaign that forgets the Tory party has exactly the same problem and one of Islamophobia too.
 
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That’s why I wouldn’t go to Madeira unless I was being paid a lot.

So you’re now on the side of o Leary?
Yes, I admire O Leary and much as I have used Ryanair asca source of humour in reality they offer a fantastic service at incredible prices. Used them loads. Flown to Carcassonne dozens of times, regularly for £20. How can you knock that.(Ryanair dont do Madeira)
Wind has picked up here. Airport closed. Every cloud though. Will be windsurfing again.
Think you have caught a touch of the OGs. Cheer up fingers. Life's fine. Enjoy it.
 
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oldgroaner

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The express is struggling too
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Brexit betrayal: Boris Johnson's fury over Corbyn plot to ‘fiddle’ EU exit with 2nd vote
BORIS JOHNSON has accused Jeremy Corbyn of plotting to “fiddle” a second referendum in favour of Remain by giving the vote to two million EU citizens.

Unlike the referendum where out expats were excluded?
And forgetting that the EU gave 66 million of us the vote in the EU Elections
 
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