Flight lands two hours behind schedule. It happens somewhere every day. No big deal.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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What does “NHS For Sale” mean? Will I see estate agent’s For Sale boards outside hospitals? Will I be able to go to my local hospital and buy the iron lung?
Is NHS For Sale just a BS sound bite? Or does NHS for sale mean the buying in of services from private service suppliers?
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How many of his apparent voters are also fakes or bots?
I have been wondering how truthful people are in answering pollsters. The organisations are not stupid, they know there are many reasons people will lie or mislead. But in the circumstances of today, I question whether the rate of misleading pollsters will be similar to previous elections? Or much higher?
No prediction which way it would affect the polls, and likely more nuanced than simple make tories look more, or elss, likely to win
And your point is that people should be happy to be inconvenienced waiting for Trump when he storms out like a child, because he is more important than they are?
Well, I bloody well wouldn't be especially if it made me miss a connecting flight.
How's the weather on planet Tory?
Where the Americans run the system as a profit making corporation and charge what they like after further running the NHS down.
Back to the good old days when the poor get sick they die, saving the Tory middle class a cost in taxation and reducing the pension costs.
You are clearly taking the mickey with that post.
Great humour, worthy of a Boris award.
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Farage is losing his grip
https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/elections/general-election-2019/brexit-party-meps-quit-vote-conservatives/
Sinking ships and rodents spring to mind
It baffles me while this Company is described as a "party" with "Whips"
Mind you,I read somwhere that houses of ill repute are reputed to have "whips" (as an optional extra) come to think of it, and allegedy organise "Parties" so perhaps the description is fair after all.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/elections/general-election-2019/brexit-party-meps-quit-vote-conservatives/
Sinking ships and rodents spring to mind
It baffles me while this Company is described as a "party" with "Whips"
Mind you,I read somwhere that houses of ill repute are reputed to have "whips" (as an optional extra) come to think of it, and allegedy organise "Parties" so perhaps the description is fair after all.
I can imagine Kaiser, or whoever, actually buying a hospital (whether newly-built, ex-NHS or converted hotel or offices or even shopping centre) and offering to a deal to provide, say, all the elective surgery in an area at what appears a good price.
By the time they are fully established, there will be reduced NHS provision in the area. They will have become the only possible way of providing the resources in the area. And will then be in a position to ramp up what they charge. Reduce what they pay - selecting less expensive options at every step.
Further, the big NHS hospital might be over-sized as it is no longer doing the electives. Its costs will seem even higher (on a per unit of work basis) simply because it is the wrong size. Ideally they would downsize for what they still cover, A&E and maternity?, and Kaiser would be right there ready to make another un-refusable deal...
Once Kaiser are there, dominating healthcare in an area, they will effectively be impossible to remove. We have seen difficulties with railway franchises and too-big-to-fail banks.
Buying from private sector can be sensible for some things, some of the time. I think we can all imagine several local companies being invited to tender for interior redecorating of a hospital. Because they can be replaced by a different company for the next ward refurb, there is pressure to perform well and bid reasonably sensibly. But even that level goes very wrong when one company decides to offer to do ALL the decorating for the next ten years at an appealing price. Once they get that the problems are likely to start and be difficult to work round. Reduced quality of work and materials. Pleading for unscheduled increases in contract rates. And so on. If that one company underbids, quality falls. If they overbid they are raking in an excess profit.
PFI comes to mind. In my area a private company built a very small hospital ten years ago which it rent to the NHS for 100k/month (I used to do some work for the NHS and have sat in meetings in which this was discussed). Under the current squeeze the NHS has (with considerable cost) been forced to abandon the contract (and move the predominantly mental health services into disused council buildings that are not fit for purpose). The same private company is now demolishing the hospital building to develop the site as high cost housing. Tories are funny. They enjoy ripping of the tax payer by plundering the public purse. Then complain that services in their area (I live in an affluent tory seat)is decimated.
Oh yes, PFI. Labour went on an orgy of awarding PFI contracts when they trashed the economy last time. An absolute disaster. Some in Labour are still adamant that they are a good idea.
I'm not saying it's a good idea. I just want to know what Corbyn means when he says the Tory's will sell the NHS. It sounds like a misleading BS strap line to me.
Was this trashing of the economy the same one trashed by the bankers or the current one trashed by the Conservatives?
And if the Tory's don't like PFI why didn't they ban it?
He means carry on what is being done by the Conservatives, just a bit quicker.
Hope this helps, as there have been examples quoted just now on here today.
Tell me, why do you think Boris won't sell off the NHS?
Any positive reason you can offer to support that, based on perhaps some previous examples?
And of course we can trust his word, can't we?
I'm saying it happens. Unscheduled diversions to Royal Flights, Military Ops, Government Flights, Police Ops, Air Ambulance Ops, Foreign Dignitary schedule alterations (from any country) can all affect civilian flights. It's not a biggie.
Perhaps you should join that insane Swedish child on her polluting yacht as she traverses the world frightening children. You may be less susceptible to delays?
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/boris-johnson-interviewed-by-robert-peston-1-6410448
He's lying at full throttle
He's lying at full throttle
Let's face it you were trying to play down the fact that Trump behaving like a child caused inconvenience to people and of course he doesn't give a damn, and now by your own admission you don't either.
The last sentence was simply silly
"Perhaps you should join that insane Swedish child on her polluting yacht as she traverses the world frightening children. You may be less susceptible to delays?"
You can do better than that.
If we leave the EU with any sort of hard Brexit, our reliance on the USA for trade will increase. Despite what anyone says, it is inconceivable that the USA will not want access to supply drugs and medical services into the NHS as part of any trade negotiation. Trump campaigned partly on the basis of reducing medical costs in the USA by selling drugs and services, at a profit, to other countries. It's therefore a given that the US will supply large chunks of the NHS, we will be vulnerable and powerless to stop it.
Some of these US medical companies are awash with money, the cash strapped NHS internal market won't stand a chance of competing against them and the takeover will spread. many of the US medical companies are also part of bigger holding companies that deal in medical insurance. Any ideas where that's going?
I still don't know what Corby means when he says that Boris Johnson will sell the NHS. I think he's a senile Stalinist twat, which poses something of a dilemma for me at the ballot box, because Johnson will oversee what I describe above.
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New labour. In other words tory light. Theres an inherent contradiction in not wanting to pay tax but wanting to live in a civil society with adequate infrastructure.
Uncharacteristically for me, let us accept our unbeloved PM's words for a moment:
The prime minister also used his appearance on the daytime television sofa to argue that some criminals like the London Bridge terror attacker, Usman Khan, were not capable of being rehabilitated.
Khan had served eight years in prison for his role in a plot to bomb the London Stock Exchange but was released automatically halfway through his sentence.
Asked if he should have been locked up permanently, the prime minister replied: “I think actually you must always try to rehabilitate people - you’ve always got to give people a chance...
“But there are some people, and I think probably this guy is one of them, who just are not capable of being changed and in his case the best thing for the public and for him was to keep him inside and it was wrong to have early release.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/05/boris-johnson-says-sorry-for-any-offence-caused-by-burqa-article
Now, PM, just how do you know before the attack that he was one of those who are not capable of being changed? And, if you did know, PM, just why didn't you prevent it happening?
The prime minister also used his appearance on the daytime television sofa to argue that some criminals like the London Bridge terror attacker, Usman Khan, were not capable of being rehabilitated.
Khan had served eight years in prison for his role in a plot to bomb the London Stock Exchange but was released automatically halfway through his sentence.
Asked if he should have been locked up permanently, the prime minister replied: “I think actually you must always try to rehabilitate people - you’ve always got to give people a chance...
“But there are some people, and I think probably this guy is one of them, who just are not capable of being changed and in his case the best thing for the public and for him was to keep him inside and it was wrong to have early release.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/05/boris-johnson-says-sorry-for-any-offence-caused-by-burqa-article
Now, PM, just how do you know before the attack that he was one of those who are not capable of being changed? And, if you did know, PM, just why didn't you prevent it happening?