Brexit, for once some facts.
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Put it this way Corbyn won't last long whatever happens
The damage Boris can do could be permanent or near as makes no difference, so I really don't see your problem, the decision is simple
Corbyn;
Temporary nuisance versus
Boris;
Permanent disaster
Agreed, but it wasn't Labour, it was Blair with his pseudo Tory non-socialist New Labour who invented PFI.
A true socialist Labour government under Corby never would.
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She’s not growing up though. She is a silly little girl who is being exploited and played by the same bunch of herberts that keep causing disruption in London.
That boats needs to be taken off her and she needs to be sent back to school to learn things. Her self gratifying stunts are causing pollution, frightening other children and tipping her further into mental bat-**** craziness.
Who shook your cloverleaf anyway?
And if anyone suggested anything to the contrary, he could have you sent to the Gulag.
You really are utterly confused about the differences between Socialism and Communism. True Socialism can only exist under the control of a democracy. Examples have been and still are within Europe, Clement Attlee's post WW2 government was one here.
True Communism can only exist under the control of some form of dictatorship since it has to be enforced against the human nature of many. I hardly need give examples.
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I do actually. Socialism is the giving away of other people’s money by deception, and communism and is the giving away of other people’s money with menaces.
Seriously, Corbyn has surrounded himself with some pretty hardcore left wing characters.
That's your perception, and a very distorted one it is. Socialism requires some degree of equalisation of income, wealth and opportunity to ensure a fairer society in which all have a chance to enjoy a good life. That is neither theft or deception since it protects those who give more. Look what happened in France and Russia when they had too unequal a society which didn't share.
Your false perception again, they are merely true Socialists, less hardcore than those in Attlee's government. Rather than the woolly liberals and Blairite tories co-existing in the current Labour party, who don't want to share.
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Len Mc Cluskey, the £140K+ a year boss of Unite, a union representing some of the poorest paid people. Len Mc Cluskey, benefitting from a £400K loan from Unite to buy property. Len Mc Cluskey enjoys a 3%+ pay rise whilst the people he represents get 0% or 1%.
I look forward to Mc Cluskey sharing his wealth with his membership. Except they never do. They never do because they are only socialists when it comes to other people’s money.
I have no issues with socialism, but the bill for it always falls on the PAYE monkeys because they are easy prey. Big corporations and the very wealthy get out of paying because they are too smart for the politicians, and the politicians have power, so they don’t pay either. All that will happen under Corbyn is business as usual for large businesses and billionaires, with a big squeeze on earners. You can write the script now.
This is the difference between democratic Socialism and Communism that you don't understand. Democratic Socialism allows the freedom to have such differences, as it should in a free society. You seem to be thinking McCluskey should be subject to harshly restrictive communist principles. True socialism isn't about removing opportunity for betterment, it's about allowing it to anyone.
Anyway, there's nothing wrong with that £140k for leading such a large union, he's paid tax on it and it's far, far less than the several millions a year company directors often get.
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fascinating moral maze
"en Mc Cluskey, the £140K+ a year boss of Unite, a union representing some of the poorest paid people. Len Mc Cluskey, benefitting from a £400K loan
Note the word loan: and how many thousands have any of the Conservatives pocketed Tax free as straight bribes, described euphemistically as "donations"
"Matt Hancock received nine donations between £2,000 and £4,000 from businessman who heads board of free market group, the Institute of Economic Affairs. Newly appointed health secretary Matt Hancock received £32,000 in donations from the chairman of a think tank which critics say is trying to “abolish the NHS”.
"en Mc Cluskey, the £140K+ a year boss of Unite, a union representing some of the poorest paid people. Len Mc Cluskey, benefitting from a £400K loan
Note the word loan: and how many thousands have any of the Conservatives pocketed Tax free as straight bribes, described euphemistically as "donations"
"Matt Hancock received nine donations between £2,000 and £4,000 from businessman who heads board of free market group, the Institute of Economic Affairs. Newly appointed health secretary Matt Hancock received £32,000 in donations from the chairman of a think tank which critics say is trying to “abolish the NHS”.
The Mail and Express both front paged the dire lie from Corbyn that he watches the Queens speech at a different time from when it is broadcast.
Apparently the Conservative Party is unaware of TV catch up programs, or indeed the invention of the TV recorder?
Apparently the Conservative Party is unaware of TV catch up programs, or indeed the invention of the TV recorder?
And this character assasination on Corbyn is now recruiting Labour party workers who claim they have suffered dire distress because they whistle blew on Anti Semitic acts and were ignored, one even claiming he almost took his own life because of it.
Two things strike about this
Two things strike about this
- It's a strange coincidence that they choose to "Me too" during the election campaign
- Labour need to select their people with more care
The time that he claimed to watch the Queen’s speech was before it had been broadcast. No amount of TV catchup or TV recording devices can dig him out of that one. I think he was doing a Boris.
Matt Hancock doesn’t pretend to be a socialist. He’s just doing what it says on his tin. I don’t agree with it or like it, but it’s not done under cover of socialism, as per Labour.
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It was a Ryan Air flight wasnt it? Passengers have demanded their fares back. Going to cost O Leary £112.50 to do so. Who cares? Besides if it was diverted/delayed passengers just had longer to prepare for bouncy, noisy landing. I, m sure Ryan Air planes have had shock absorbers removed from suspension.
Landed in Madeira other day. Thats rather interesting. Plane approached sideways.. I was looking down runway from seat over wing... (A Tui flight, nice and gentle tho)
Google Madeira landings. It's enough to put you off coming here.
I, m getting my air miles in before its banned by Thunberg.
Mind you Madeira aint all its cracked up to be. Its green because it fecking rains all time. Wind is fluky too. Warmer than Filey though.
Ryan Air is ok, you just need to hold your nose, insert ear plugs and don’t make eye contact with the other passengers.
Your Air Miles are safe. Thunberg will be in the loon house before too long, being juiced.