Brexit, for once some facts.

[oyster]

Thank goodness, I feel so reassured about brexit now.

Sajid Javid's plan to flood tills with Brexit 50p coins
Chancellor said to be preparing to put millions of coins into circulation for 31 October leave date

Now that SJ has sufficient spare resources (personal and personnel) to concentrate on coin design.

Does anyone know a technical way of marking coins, permanently, without actually drilling holes or similar physical damage? I have a Latvian coin which seems to have been chemically treated so that a niobium disc (like the inner of our pound coins) is dark blue. And I am sure many of us remember some old pennies being near enough totally black. It would be rather nice to be able to demonstrate our opinion of this (planned) coin issue.

As the Queen's head would be on the other side, and it has to be signed off by the Queen's privy council, wouldn't it run the risk of dragging the Queen into politics?

 

[oyster]

Must be an election brewing. They always talk about getting tough - and then have the realities of their proposals pointed out to them.

The Sunday Telegraph reports that Prime Minister Boris Johnson is expected to announce a pledge to get "tougher" on prison sentencing, no longer allowing serious criminals to be automatically released early. He will meet representatives from the police and criminal justice system on Monday to discuss the plans. Currently, for prison sentences of 12 months or more, the convict spends the first half in prison and the second half on licence, the paper says. It adds the new plans will not apply to rapists or murderers.

 

[flecc]

The Sunday Telegraph reports that Prime Minister Boris Johnson is expected to announce a pledge to get "tougher" on prison sentencing, no longer allowing serious criminals to be automatically released early. He will meet representatives from the police and criminal justice system on Monday to discuss the plans. Currently, for prison sentences of 12 months or more, the convict spends the first half in prison and the second half on licence, the paper says. It adds the new plans will not apply to rapists or murderers.

More Boris Johnson stupidity. That change would be impossible without a huge prison population increase entailing building a large number of new prisons. The present prison estate is already overcrowded and unfit, many needing to be closed soon.
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[Fingers]

More Boris Johnson stupidity. That change would be impossible without a huge prison population increase entailing building a large number of new prisons. The present prison estate is already overcrowded and unfit, many needing to be closed soon.
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He said he is building 10k more cells

 

[50Hertz]

From the Guardian
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Brexit enforcer Cummings’ farm took €235,000 in EU handouts
Boris Johnson aide, a strident critic of Brussels, is accused of hypocrisy over payments

NATURALLY

Why would he want Brexit if he gets €235000 from the EU. I don’t understand

 

[flecc]

He said he is building 10k more cells

I'd like to know where the money is going to come from for all the promises he's made!

In truth I think the announcement is a nonsense which will never happen. Electioneering. We've heard the same from a long line of Tory politicians from William Whitelaw and Michael Howard onwards, but all that's ever happened in that time is the reverse.

As lawlessness increases, ever less offences are being met with prison, instead community sentences taking their place. Paroles getting earlier, releases taking place as earlier as a quarter sentence served, and the courts being asked to avoid short sentences which clog up the system and use community orders instead.
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[Wicky]

He said he is building 10k more cells

Hopefully under the close supervision of an experienced Polish gaffer so he doesn't skive off...

 

[oyster]

He said he is building 10k more cells

Brexit bonus.

 

[oyster]

Agreed.

Heseltine: imposing no-deal Brexit 'intolerable' attack on democracy
‘Large’ number of Tory MPs set to vote against party, which would also lose ground to Lib Dems
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/11/heseltine-imposing-no-deal-brexit-intolerable-attack-on-democracy

 

[50Hertz]

More Boris Johnson stupidity. That change would be impossible without a huge prison population increase entailing building a large number of new prisons. The present prison estate is already overcrowded and unfit, many needing to be closed soon.
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I don’t know why they can’t cram more people into the existing prison cells. Are we really bothered if a knife wielding , murderous scum-bag has to share a cell with 10 other people? At least whilst they are in a prison, they can’t stab anyone else except fellow knife scum.

 

[Danidl]

Why would he want Brexit if he gets €235000 from the EU. I don’t understand

You need to play the game with the rules in place. The CAP is available without fear or favour to all rural enterprises in the EU. It is probable that his farm would have been severely affected had he not used these supports.

 

[flecc]

I don’t know why they can’t cram more people into the existing prison cells. Are we really bothered if a knife wielding , murderous scum-bag has to share a cell with 10 other people? At least whilst they are in a prison, they can’t stab anyone else except fellow knife scum.

That's simplistic, the vast majority in prison aren't there for wielding knives and/or killing anyone. Most have probably never directly hurt anyone physically.

The average cell can only take two people with their two bunks, a toilet and a shelf or table space anyway.
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[flecc]

Why would he want Brexit if he gets €235000 from the EU. I don’t understand

His share of the Boris bus £350 millions a week?
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[50Hertz]

You need to play the game with the rules in place. The CAP is available without fear or favour to all rural enterprises in the EU. It is probable that his farm would have been severely affected had he not used these supports.

But wouldn’t leaving the EU result in him losing the €230K ?

 

[oyster]

Happened across a site which forecasts currency. Suggests by September 2023, the pound will be at 0.810 euros. That's something wonderful to look forward to. (Obviously all forecasts can and do change!)

POUND TO EURO TODAY AND GBP TO EUR FORECAST 2024, 2025-2028

Today's GBP To EUR exchange rate and forecast for free. GBP To EUR Converter. Pound to Euro forecast for tomorrow, this week, months, 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028

poundf.co.uk

 

[flecc]

Happened across a site which forecasts currency. Suggests by September 2023, the pound will be at 0.810 euros. That's something wonderful to look forward to. (Obviously all forecasts can and do change!)

POUND TO EURO TODAY AND GBP TO EUR FORECAST 2024, 2025-2028

Today's GBP To EUR exchange rate and forecast for free. GBP To EUR Converter. Pound to Euro forecast for tomorrow, this week, months, 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028

poundf.co.uk

I think that's entirely realistic. Separated from the EU and its open market, our pound is more likely than not to be below the euro in value.
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[Woosh]

I think that's entirely realistic. Separated from the EU and its open market, our pound is more likely than not to be below the euro in value.
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if the Pound goes that way, I think brexit would be abandoned well before reaching parity with the Euro or the USD.
People are willing to put up a bit to see how things pan out but they don't want their money losing its value to that extend or a hundred thousand job losses.

 

[flecc]

But wouldn’t leaving the EU result in him losing the €230K ?

That's a somewhat inflated figure. First it's nine years of subsidies, second he's only a minority owner among four altogether.

Straight arithmetic indicates a loss of only £5000 a year for him, so he's able to stick with his anti-subsidy principles. He appears to have money anyway, father ex oil industry with hobby farm interest, so he's been able to study and interest himself around the fringe of politics, rather than be normally employed.
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[flecc]

if the Pound goes that way, I think brexit would be abandoned well before reaching parity with the Euro or the USD.

I think the downslide could happen too quickly in a volatile market to react before the pound sank below parity.

We aren't that far off parity with the euro now, and we haven't even left yet.
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[oldgroaner]

He said he is building 10k more cells

Announced as inadequate to even overcome the present overcrowding by the prison Federation!