I am sure there are a people in the UK who actually look forward to a Crash out .. just as there yobbos who live for football matches and violence ..not suggesting they are the same group
Like you I hope sanity does prevail.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Like you I hope sanity does prevail.
Its Nostradamus. It was his name.
I, ve just had a like off OG so you cant upset me tonight. So feck off.
Peter Hargreaves is looking forward to crashing out. Doesnt quite fit your analogy.
He predicted crashing out 3 years ago, but suggested a deal would be brokered within days of doing so.???
By the way Danidl, who is Crash? Would make a good name for a band. Crash Out.
Absolutely. No two ways about it. This is the bare minimum. He has Farage chomping at his feet - anything less than a 'real' Brexit and he is going to be in heaps of trouble.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Your little game is up now. The lion is roaring.
How very dare you think we would not bite.
How silly.
I think the opposite. The EU has already got all the necessary legislation to treat the UK like the USA whereas we are trying to create a special status for the EU to avoid friction.
Neither UK nor EU ready for no deal, contingency planning study finds | CBI
New report from UK’s biggest business group puts forward 200 recommendations to help accelerate no deal preparations for UK, EU and companies.www.cbi.org.uk
Because the CBI says so. Read the report OG.
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And thats before we take into account the imbalanced trade between us and EU. In 2018 we exported £289billion of goods, and imported £349 billion. Can EU afford to lose £349 billion in trade sales? Ofcourse they cant. No deal is mutually destructive, and its mutually beneficial for both sides to negotiate a deal both sides are happy with.
May, s team played into EU hands. Seems this lot wont.
I give you a simple example:
If I want to send a parcel from Shenzhen to Southend, it has to be done by DHL and will take 2-3 days because of the paperwork. The same parcel can be posted from Paris or collected by DPD Europe and no paperwork.
Now try to see how we are going to make Shenzhen as easy as Paris.
If we get there, we win big but it's not going to happen on the 1st November.
Actually I have and downloaded and read this tooNeither UK nor EU ready for no deal, contingency planning study finds | CBI
New report from UK’s biggest business group puts forward 200 recommendations to help accelerate no deal preparations for UK, EU and companies.
Because the CBI says so. Read the report OG.
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And thats before we take into account the imbalanced trade between us and EU. In 2018 we exported £289billion of goods, and imported £349 billion. Can EU afford to lose £349 billion in trade sales? Ofcourse they cant. No deal is mutually destructive, and its mutually beneficial for both sides to negotiate a deal both sides are happy with.
May, s team played into EU hands. Seems this lot wont.
It paints a far more complex picture than that brave statement, in fact the complexity of the situation is such that unless there are very complex and successful meetings and agreements made with the EU before the exit date, the result will be a disaster
For instance this little section
1.
If no deal occurs,
immediately enter emergency talks to provide temporary resolutions
for Northern Ireland
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The first flight the UK Prime Minister, the Irish Taoiseach and the
President of the European
Commission
must take if no deal occurs is to Belfast
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At the very least, a temporary negotiated settlement for the Irish border is essential to agree
within the first weeks of no deal.
•
Ideally, parties in Northern Ireland should attempt to reach an emergency compromise to
restore governance in the region for the period of no deal talks. If this ideal situation cannot
be reached, then representatives from parties across Northern Ireland should be closely
involved in agreeing temporary resolutions. Any solution for the Irish border, even one that
operates for only a short period of time, will not last if it is implemented without the consent of residents in the region
looks very difficult to sort out
In other words we can't even expect to leave without the full agreement and co operation of the EU on a multitude of matters
Crashing out simply isn't a practical idea, and certainly cannot be regarded as anything other that threatening the EU with our own side committing suicide.
Fingers your lion has no teeth, you are suffering from delusions again.
For the first time in your life educate yourself
Download this from the CBI
What comes next? the business analysis of no deal
We even need the co-operation of the EU if we want to survive a no deal Brexit. without them we face disaster, and the Government know and is trying to get agreements with them while Boris plays to the crowd with empty threats.
We are the ones that need to be afraid, not the EU, what happens here is what will matter to you after Brexit, their problems will not be yours any more will they?
OG
That's the report I linked to.??? They are the recommendations of the CBI report.?? Think you are interpreting it as you wish rather than objectively.
Neither us or EU are prepared for no deal. Co operation between both parties will be required if both sides want mutual benefit.
Your assumption is that we need EU more than vice versa, that is not at all conclusion of report.
The EU will need to replace £349 billion, the UK around £60 billion less.
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Too true.
The company I work for will probably not be directly hit hard. But our customers might very well find life extremely tough. That is what I expect to hit us. And if Sterling remains low, that increases quite a number of our costs. However, I struggle to come up with actions that we can take to make us more resilient, to prepare meaningfully.
Zlatan have you actually read the CBI report?. Read up the aviation problems ..I actually thought they had been addressed..And that is only one item.
Again look at those figures you have just quoted.. 349 divided by 500 million is a lot less than 280 divided by 60.
That's odd my interetation is exactly the same as yours
"Neither us or EU are prepared for no deal. Co operation between both parties will be required if both sides want mutual benefit. "
Where does any wishful thinking on my part?
You say this
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Your assumption is that we need EU more than vice versa, that is not at all conclusion of report.
The EU will need to replace £349 billion, the UK around £60 billion less. "
They can, and they have huge markets to turn to, we have neither, so who is in the worst situation?
Have you forgotten that Germany shrugged off a bill for reunification that was ?
German reunification bill hits €2,000,000,000,000
They got over that in little over a year
Realistically Brexit will be just another bump in the road for Germany, and France has a bigger economy that ours, both are just waiting for the opportunities Brexit will supply them with to fill the gap we leave, in all those FTA areas we will no longer have access to.
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No, whoever this "we" you are referring to are, the report says otherwise, read it and be properly informed on the subject rather than posting nonsense.
And by the way, though he is possibly your "friend" assuming he suffers fools gladly, but he isn't in "Stockholm"
He is certainly better informed and less insolent than you are.
Today's Gaffe from the Liar King in the Telegraph
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Boris Johnson says UK could stay in EU customs union and single market for two years after Brexit deadline
What happened to definitely leaving at Halloween?
As I posted the other day, give him a couple of weeks and he will be arguing to remain, but he has been quicker than I expected!
Is there any promise this liar will keep, any lie he won't tell?
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Boris Johnson says UK could stay in EU customs union and single market for two years after Brexit deadline
What happened to definitely leaving at Halloween?
As I posted the other day, give him a couple of weeks and he will be arguing to remain, but he has been quicker than I expected!
Is there any promise this liar will keep, any lie he won't tell?
Yesterday, BJ was asked about Welsh farmers and said it was OK, they would get income support.
Is he so utterly ignorant of what the phrase "Income Support" means to most people? Is he really suggesting they should be thrown onto the struggling benefits system?
Is he so utterly ignorant of what the phrase "Income Support" means to most people? Is he really suggesting they should be thrown onto the struggling benefits system?
Also in the Telegraph
Remind me , wasn't one of the complaints against the EU that there were all those "unelected bureaucrats ?"
Why then is this scruffy lout Dominic Cummings involved?
How Dominic Cummings is overhauling Downing Street to make sure Brexit happens
When was he elected?
Remind me , wasn't one of the complaints against the EU that there were all those "unelected bureaucrats ?"
Why then is this scruffy lout Dominic Cummings involved?
How Dominic Cummings is overhauling Downing Street to make sure Brexit happens
When was he elected?
Or was it a Freudian slip, and the truth accidentally revealed?
A question for you Zlatan.
How do you get away with threatening the EU with a No Deal Brexit, then ask for extra time?
From the Daily Mail
Boris Johnson hints UK could remain in EU single market and customs union until 2021 in bid to avoid cliff edge exit
Even if they don't laugh, Putin will suffer a hernia!
Reader comment said it all in the Express
Weak in one week
Who, I ask , in their right mind voted to make the Liar king PM?
Ancient Rome took longer to fall from power, but I doubt they made as many people round the world laugh at them as we are doing.
We have become the laughing stock of the world, and all it has cost to ruin ourselves in the eyes of the world is a measly £600 million a week
https://economia.icaew.com/news/april-2019/brexit-costs-uk-600m-a-week
We should really put our minds to the problem of what we will do for an encore for the finale of the Brexit means Brexit show?
Something like this perhaps?
How do you get away with threatening the EU with a No Deal Brexit, then ask for extra time?
From the Daily Mail
Boris Johnson hints UK could remain in EU single market and customs union until 2021 in bid to avoid cliff edge exit
Even if they don't laugh, Putin will suffer a hernia!
Reader comment said it all in the Express
Weak in one week
Who, I ask , in their right mind voted to make the Liar king PM?
Ancient Rome took longer to fall from power, but I doubt they made as many people round the world laugh at them as we are doing.
We have become the laughing stock of the world, and all it has cost to ruin ourselves in the eyes of the world is a measly £600 million a week
https://economia.icaew.com/news/april-2019/brexit-costs-uk-600m-a-week
We should really put our minds to the problem of what we will do for an encore for the finale of the Brexit means Brexit show?
Something like this perhaps?
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Quite possibly. But what is for sure, should he be challenged on it he will say whatever comes into his mind to dismiss any meaning he doesn't want at that time.
(This was shown as him actually saying it - not journalistic interpretation.)
Anyone think BJ is looking not very well? Earlier there had been a piece about recovering alcoholics and they mostly looked better than he does. Increasingly heavy eyelids. Apparently poor skin.