Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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Leavers are the future. The truth is out there and plain for all to see.
The future of what? domination of this country by America, the NHS dismantled and a decline in living standards and being ruled by Fascists?
The truth is out there and plain for all to see.
If you think leaving is a good idea take advantage of being able to leave and move to the EU while you still can.
 
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The future of what? domination of this country by America, the NHS dismantled and a decline in living standards and being ruled by Fascists?
The truth is out there and plain for all to see.
If you think leaving is a good idea take advantage of being able to leave and move to the EU while you still can.
Yes, I agree OG, we should remain and continue our leading positions in steel industry, car industry, power production, electronics, renewable energy production and commerce. Afterall they have all flourished and gone from strength to strength during our time in EU. We have so much to thank EU for all these industries being developed since 1972. How could anyone imagine all these massive employers could ever continue with us outside EU. They, d all disappear overnight.
 

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How could anyone imagine all these massive employers could ever continue with us outside EU. They, d all disappear overnight.
brexit or not, education has become so expensive now that I don't think we are going to dominate the world in anything other than in song writing and football.
 

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brexit or not, education has become so expensive now that I don't think we are going to dominate the world in anything other than in song writing and football.
Joking?

For song writing, see our last place in the Eurovision song contest and consistency of failure in almost all other years.

For football, see our World Cup record and the fact of our league being so full of foreign players, coaches and managers. English football is rather like our car industry, success mainly by using foreigners to set it up for us.
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oldgroaner

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Yes, I agree OG, we should remain and continue our leading positions in steel industry, car industry, power production, electronics, renewable energy production and commerce. Afterall they have all flourished and gone from strength to strength during our time in EU. We have so much to thank EU for all these industries being developed since 1972. How could anyone imagine all these massive employers could ever continue with us outside EU. They, d all disappear overnight.
None of those things failed because of the EU, that is just lies!
All of our failures are due to our own inefficiency and a policy of turning the nation into a betting shop while allowing industry either to die off or deliberately killing it.
And the biggest lie you apparently believe in is that things will change for the better after Brexi.
When it is the stated intenton of the Government to make this a super charged version of the betting shop and tax haven it is now, there will be no rebirth of industry as there are easier pickings to be had
We have lived off the EU as a Financial Services Parasite and neglected industry deliberately.
The damage we have taken is from our own people no one else.
Are you seriously thinking we will regain leading positions in steel industry, car industry, power production, electronics, renewable energy production and commerce.

We joined the EEC because we had already lost them and needed IMF loans to bail us out!
There is no chance whatever of us turning ourselves into another Germany, no one here has either the guts, brains or will to do so.
You are living in a fantasy and placing faith in the least competent , greediest and teacherous Elite on the planet.
 

Zlatan

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None of those things failed because of the EU, that is just lies!
All of our failures are due to our own inefficiency and a policy of turning the nation into a betting shop while allowing industry either to die off or deliberately killing it.
And the biggest lie you apparently believe in is that things will change for the better after Brexi.
When it is the stated intenton of the Government to make this a super charged version of the betting shop and tax haven it is now, there will be no rebirth of industry as there are easier pickings to be had
We have lived off the EU as a Financial Services Parasite and neglected industry deliberately.
The damage we have taken is from our own people no one else.
Are you seriously thinking we will regain leading positions in steel industry, car industry, power production, electronics, renewable energy production and commerce.

We joined the EEC because we had already lost them and needed IMF loans to bail us out!
There is no chance whatever of us turning ourselves into another Germany, no one here has either the guts, brains or will to do so.
You are living in a fantasy and placing faith in the least competent , greediest and teacherous Elite on the planet.
Amazingly you know my views better than I do,even the ones I, ve not yet considered. Well done OG, how d o you do it. Its incredible, one up from putting words in my mouth. More a complete belief set ready for me to adopt. I dont even have to think about it, you, ve done it for me. You should be on the stage.
And all gleaned from one sarcastic post.
Only one question. Who am I putting my faith in? Please let me know, I, m lost without being told.
 
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oldgroaner

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Amazingly you know my views better than I do,even the ones I, ve not yet considered. Well done OG, how d o you do it. Its incredible, one up from putting words in my mouth. More a complete belief set ready for me to adopt. I dont even have to think about it, you, ve done it for me. You should be on the stage.
And all gleaned from one sarcastic post.
Only one question. Who am I putting my faith in? Please let me know, I, m lost without being told.
How can I? when you don't know either? come on, I responded to your wind up, is there anything else I can help you with?

This is a classic catch 22 situation.
We both know full well the trouble this nation of ours is in
Lions led by Donkeys etc., etc.
And we are surrounded by circling wolves
There is only one rational way out and that's to stop Brexit
Naturally we will do the opposite.
 
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brexit or not, education has become so expensive now that I don't think we are going to dominate the world in anything other than in song writing and football.
Don't know about the song writing but when it comes to football, not sure that we dominate it. Aren't most of the clubs Foreign owned, aren't most of the Managers and their assistants from over seas, aren't most of the players foreign too. I suppose most of the supporters in the grounds are British but the TV audience will be world wide.

There were quite a few British players starting in the game last night, but in the other European final the other night there were hardly any. I think the Premier League is more of a world league now, it just happens to take place in the UK, I wonder how long it will be before some of the games are actually player abroad. They floated this idea a while back and it was not popular, but I suspect it will happen eventually.
 

oldgroaner

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brexit or not, education has become so expensive now that I don't think we are going to dominate the world in anything other than in song writing and football.
They should introduce degree courses in advanced stupidity, as a nation we struggle even to reach amateur level in that.
Hence the popularity of the BXP
 
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I watched this and there is no way we should have been last. There was other reasons behind this.. A few days after the competition they took another 5 points of us.....we were already last ffs....just an extra kick in the testicles.
The Conspiracy of the day award goes to you, and this little clip is your prize
 
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Zlatan

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I watched this and there is no way we should have been last. There was other reasons behind this.. A few days after the competition they took another 5 points of us.....we were already last ffs....just an extra kick in the testicles.
Its the fecking Europeans for you Dave. Never could take a joke.. DeGaulle started it all.
 
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Zlatan

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They should introduce degree courses in advanced stupidity, as a nation we struggle even to reach amateur level in that.
Hence the popularity of the BXP
Advanced warning. Attempt at humour.
You can be HoD, you are emminently qualified,but Danidl will beat you hands down in interview.
His pontifications are much more interview oriented.

Many years ago a mate got an interview for a job at which just a few minutes prior to interview he decided he didnt want job. He put an elastic band around his head, hidden by his hair. In interview it popped up and made his hair stand on end. He got job offered to him, and turned it down.
 
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Don't know about the song writing but when it comes to football, not sure that we dominate it. Aren't most of the clubs Foreign owned, aren't most of the Managers and their assistants from over seas, aren't most of the players foreign too. I suppose most of the supporters in the grounds are British but the TV audience will be world wide.

There were quite a few British players starting in the game last night, but in the other European final the other night there were hardly any. I think the Premier League is more of a world league now, it just happens to take place in the UK, I wonder how long it will be before some of the games are actually player abroad. They floated this idea a while back and it was not popular, but I suspect it will happen eventually.

Well tbf two premier League games did happen abroad last week.

They were popular I understand.

I didn't particularly enjoy one of them but others did I am told
 

oldgroaner

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So Juncker is now a world leader?


The EU is now a country?
He should ask for that nice Mr Bannon to pay for him to travel in style like he does for Nigel Farage eh?
How come you forgot to mention this?
"He was quick to add: 'The NATO Secretary-General, on the other hand, lives in a stately home, and invites us there sometimes when we need a rest. All the ambassadors have residences too - I know many of them.'
Is NATO a country too in your opinion?
Or doesn't it suit your anti EU agenda?
 
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