Brexit, for once some facts.

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It's amusing to see the sheer quality of the mugs Farage is fielding as MEP candidates, here one of the merry band of blunderers
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/06/brexit-party-mep-candidate-praised-use-of-nazi-slogan
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Brexit party MEP candidate praised use of Nazi slogan
John Tennant also has history of using obscene language about women on social media

Sophistication? who needs it when you you want a rabble rouser?
Quoting from The Guardian again. Normally, I'd say that you're insulting your own intelligence, but I don't think you are.
 
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Quoting from The Guardian again.
Doesn't appear to matter where we quote from. My quote from Guernsey Press was criticised for being from Guernsey. (Mind, same story also appeared in the Guardian.) OG's for being from the Guardian.

At least real newspapers do have editors unlike YouTube.
 

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It doesn't matter, does it? even if they do they are merely a nuisance rather than a threat and unlikely to actually take office or be in it for very long.
If we leave they don't have a job, and if we don't
It could actually be fun to watch them squirm, if for instance there happened to be a return to membership, imagine what a life of hell they would get from the other MEP's in the parliament!
They would be literally flogging a extinct horse with no mandate or chance of another referendum.

What credibility would they have if Brexit has failed?
They would be a laughing stock every time they turned up.

I suspect they would do a Nigel and stay at home, rather than be the butt of jokes.
great fun,but actually a waste of time and money.
(Though highly entertaining to watch them take a drubbing)
Really they are extremely foolish to stand for election, it's a hiding for nothing whatever happens.

The downside from our point of view if we decide to remain is that we have a bunch of lunatic saboteurs supposedly representing our interests, and since they won't the EU will do what it likes and we are powerless to alter that fact.

Once the UK Government realises they are slinging the lead, and stepping out of line, I'm sure this jolly band will feel the weight of their displeasure, and they are unlikely to get the free ride the jackass Farage did with support for their cause no longer coming from head office.

If I was the president of the EU I would expect all MEP's to sign an article of loyalty to work for the good of the nation they represent, and to futher the aims of the EU itself.
Admitting treacherous nut cases should be prevented, after all an oath of loyalty is required of MP's, why not Mep's?

That people like Farage were allowed to pose as representing this country when working actively against it and the elected government is tantamount to offering an MP ship under a proportional representational system to Guy Fawkes.

Happy days!
That's some wish list you've got there.....

Happy days indeed.
 
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Doesn't appear to matter where we quote from. My quote from Guernsey Press was criticised for being from Guernsey. (Mind, same story also appeared in the Guardian.) OG's for being from the Guardian.

At least real newspapers do have editors unlike YouTube.
Instead of complaining when people point out that you're being daft, why don't you try and apply a bit of intelligence to your argument?

40 women don't want to accept charity. What sort of story is that? I'm pretty sure that I can find more than 40 women that don't want to accept charity from you. Does that mean that you're a bad person?
 
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Instead of complaining when people point out that you're being daft, why don't you try and apply a bit of intelligence to your argument?

40 women don't want to accept charity. What sort of story is that? I'm pretty sure that I can find more than 40 women that don't want to accept charity from you. Does that mean that you're a bad person?
My point was about your criticism of Guernsey Press as a quote - NOT any argument you might have about the story itself.
 

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That's some wish list you've got there.....

Happy days indeed.
Not a wish list, it's how their future will turn out to be . The Euro elections are just a "photo op" rather than a serious election.
No doubt the candidates are fully aware of that unless they are stupid.
They must be aware that it is the equivalent of travelling back in time and applying for the job of Deckchair attendant on the Titanic.
 
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interesting

It started off with a lie, and worked it's way down from there.

There is no way on Earth that MEPs will be allowed anywhere near Brexit negotiations, amazing that so many voters will prove thick enough to support these nut cases, when they can't deliver on any of those promises.
But then they never intend to do they? just mug the voters again, and make money out of the racket.
 
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interesting

It started off with a lie, and worked it's way down from there.

There is no way on Earth that MEPs will be allowed anywhere near Brexit negotiations, amazing that so many voters will prove thick enough to support these nut cases, when they can't deliver on any of those promises.
But then they never intend to do they? just mug the voters again, and make money out of the racket.
at least they are consistent.
They see Brussels as a giant gravy train, turn up when you want, claim back all your expenses, good pay and a very generous pension scheme.
so why not jump on.
 

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interesting

It started off with a lie, and worked it's way down from there.

There is no way on Earth that MEPs will be allowed anywhere near Brexit negotiations, amazing that so many voters will prove thick enough to support these nut cases, when they can't deliver on any of those promises.
But then they never intend to do they? just mug the voters again, and make money out of the racket.
Kleenex Nigel - a tissue of lies.
 
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An interesting thread featuring Nigel in his own words


And before the resident troll reacts this does not represent in any way my support for this despicable traitor to the nation.
This is what the far right lefties always do. When they see someone as a threat to their agenda, they do everything they can to try and make them look like a bad person because they know they can't win any argument or debate.

By the way, what's happened to your alta ego Robdon? Did she get found out? Poor old Oyster is not going to like it at all. Here comes the thumbs down!
 
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May must reveal her departure date next week, Brady says
1922 Committee chair wants to find out PM’s resignation timetable at their meeting

And when she says "October", will they ask "Which year?"
 
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And when she says "October", will they ask "Which year?"
apparently, according to her deputy Lidington, she is planning a second referendum.
That may be a deal she and JC are doing.
 

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apparently, according to her deputy Lidington, she is planning a second referendum.
That may be a deal she and JC are doing.
It does seem a likely move as the only way she can get her deal through

That shouldn't be too hard, if you can find as many dimwits as are allegedly supporting the likes of Farage and that pound shop imitation of his the "Milk Shake Kid",all the loonies are clearly not in the Asylums, and simple minded enough to be taken in once again.

In a properly organised society Farage should have been told to withdraw that lie packed EU election communication and send one that truthfully listed what he had a chance of achieving.

The problem is that his supporters look at the list and actually believe every word, even though it is so patently a pack of lies.
 
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It does seem a likely move as the only way she can get her deal through

That shouldn't be too hard, if you can find as many dimwits as are allegedly supporting the likes of Farage and that pound shop imitation of his the "Milk Shake Kid",all the loonies are clearly not in the Asylums, and simple minded enough to be taken in once again.

In a properly organised society Farage should have been told to withdraw that lie packed EU election communication and send one that truthfully listed what he had a chance of achieving.

The problem is that his supporters look at the list and actually believe every word, even though it is so patently a pack of lies.
I am pretty sure that Farage will welcome a second referendum.
Campaigning is what he does best and it pays well too, all the tory millionaires and billionaires can recognise talent when they see one.
 
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I am pretty sure that Farage will welcome a second referendum.
Campaigning is what he does best and it pays well too, all the tory millionaires and billionaires can recognise talent when they see one.
"That aint workin' that's the way to do it
Money for nuthin and the chicks come free"
Should be his signature tune

Looking back through some of those videos on the Twtter link I posted, he actually boasted that he had never voted on any EU laws. In other words he felt free to abuse the position on an MEP that carries with it a duty to protect and advance the interest of all his constituents, and isn't simply cart blanche to act as a saboteur.
He was there to do a job for the nation not just a faction.

There needs to be a way to make sure anyone who is elected as an MEP acts in the interests of his or her constituents, not just a faction, and not just themselves.
For this he should be banned for life from standing for election ever again
 
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I am pretty sure that Farage will welcome a second referendum.
Since the choice will be May's Deal or Remain, I'm not so sure he'll welcome that. With parliament wholly opposed to it, the No Deal that Farage really wants can't be a choice on the paper.

It's going to be tough for anyone to argue for May's Deal after the slating it's received for so long and from all quarters.
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Since the choice will be May's Deal or Remain, I'm not so sure he'll welcome that. With parliament wholly opposed to it, the No Deal that Farage really wants can't be a choice on the paper.

It's going to be tough for anyone to argue for May's Deal after the slating it's received for so long and from all quarters.
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I think the option of no deal will also be on the ballot paper. That will split leave votes.
 
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I think the option of no deal will also be on the ballot paper. That will split leave votes.
But will parliament agree to a second referendum with No Deal on the ballot paper, given their overwhelming opposition to No Deal?
 

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