Brexit, for once some facts.

Danidl

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He was down there in London a few weeks back with his Panodrama show and about 10,000 followers. Didn't you go to see him? He lives in Luton. Where about are you?
VR, your fanboy postings in regard to this person are becoming tedious. The second coming of JC himself ,would hardly have evoked similar adulation
 
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Now that I've cleared out the Trash, back to business
In the Independent
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Brexit: Corbyn says new referendum could be 'healing process' at European election campaign launch

Labour leader also accuses Theresa May of making 'no big offer' in cross-party Brexit talks

Is there finally going to be a decision?
Words so many of us very much want to hear. But only if they mean what we hope they do.

Sadly, I fear they might very well prove to mean something else - or nothing.

Reminds me of lifetime guarantees. Lifetime of purchaser? Or a lifetime that might reasonably be expected of a product? Or it's broke so it has reached end of lifetime?
 

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Hope you've all been watching on BBC4 the two parter 'Brexit: Behind Closed Doors' showing from a EU perspective the time wasting incompentence of the government's negotiation process as the clock was ticking down, and sucessive Brexit ministers were sent by May to meetings like WW1 Tommy soldiers to the frontline.
 

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Farage failed in a big way on Question time when asked to name a single country that trades on WTO rules

“Just answer the question, can you name a country that trades on WTO rules.” Farage flummoxed as his WTO spin unravels. He’s been pushing for a Brexit where we trade on WTO rules. But he can’t name a single country that just trades on that basis.
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1108030338293485568/1t_diZd9_normal.jpg[/IMG] [B]BBC Question Time[/B]




4:40 PM - 9 May 2019
Is this the same Farage who predicted that the EU would be a pushover and would be desperate to give us a deal? The only reliable thing about Farage is that he is consistently full of pi$$ & wind.
 

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Farage failed in a big way on Question time when asked to name a single country that trades on WTO rules






4:40 PM - 9 May 2019

He is still pushing the "We Could" nonsense that is failing so obviously and pushing for America to own us.
Foxes failure showed how weak we really are.
Basically he wants to put us in a position where we are at the mercy of any country that seeks to take advantage of our self imposed weakened negotiating situation.
He wants to sell us cheap to the nearest bidder
 

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Farage failed in a big way on Question time when asked to name a single country that trades on WTO rules






4:40 PM - 9 May 2019

He is still pushing the "We Could" nonsense that is failing so obviously and pushing for America to own us.
Foxes failure showed how weak we really are.
Basically he wants to put us in a position where we are at the mercy of any country that seeks to take advantage of our self imposed weakened negotiating situation.
He wants to sell us cheap to the nearest bidder
OG,

Did you re-post that - and delete original? As I see it, 50H posted a reply to you 52 minutes ago, but your post was only 46 minutes ago. And your post follows his.

Or did you just update it?
 

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Farage failed in a big way on Question time when asked to name a single country that trades on WTO rules

4:40 PM - 9 May 2019

He is still pushing the "We Could" nonsense that is failing so obviously and pushing for America to own us.
Foxes failure showed how weak we really are.
Basically he wants to put us in a position where we are at the mercy of any country that seeks to take advantage of our self imposed weakened negotiating situation.
He wants to sell us cheap to the nearest bidder
Plus NF stuck his fingers in his ears and ignored warnings when it was raised that things wouldn't be all rosy in the garden if Britain were to rely on trading purely WTO from former Director-General of WTO Pascal Lamy cos he was supposedly a biased European.

Even though current WTO director-general Roberto Azevêdo warns much the same.

Watching NF his tactic of late is to generally repeat a vacuous mantra of 'betrayal of democracy' and as nature abhors a vacuum it unfortunately sucks some suckers in.
 

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OG,

Did you re-post that - and delete original? As I see it, 50H posted a reply to you 52 minutes ago, but your post was only 46 minutes ago. And your post follows his.

Or did you just update it?
I made a mess of updating it and ended up with a second version hence had to delete one...sorry about that!
 
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50Hertz

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Watching NF his tactic of late is to generally repeat a vacuous mantra of 'betrayal of democracy' and as nature abhors a vacuum it unfortunately sucks some suckers in.
That all he’s ever had, emotive shallow sound bites which appeal to some people. If you try to find any substance or planning associated with his statements, you will fail. This is precisely why he vanished immediately after the referendum. He was full of, take back control, return sovereignty to the British People, and our boys fought two world wars crap pre referendum, but when he won, he was found to be inadequate and incompetent. So he ran off and hid. Now he’s popped out from his hiding place to champion the latest fad. He’s a twat and anyone who can’t see that from the evidence of his past performance is also a twat.
 

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And it is only going to get worse.
only for a couple of weeks.
NF was facing a tough gig last night. Two against 3.
On his side, John Mills may have lots of dosh to give to the cause but was not much of a debater, too old and too slow to cope with regular QT panelists.
I must say I liked Jonathan Reynolds, haven't seen him before but he was quick enough to do his job for Labour.
 
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In the Express it get's funnier by the day
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Verhofstadt claims Theresa May's Brexit chief Olly Robbins asked for Belgian citizenship
BREXIT coordinator for the European Union Guy Verhofstadt revealed Theresa May's top civil servant pleaded to become a Belgian citizen after Brexit in a shocking interview with the BBC.

Aww, what's the problem? he's entering into the spirit of Brexit by doing it himself, that's all.
And who wouldn't want more Conservative MP's to do so?

Recommended.
 

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I’m hearing that the new emergency service radio system is going to cost over three thousand million pounds more than originally estimated. What items had been overlooked which cost over three thousand million pounds? What level of incompetence do you need to get a cost estimate wrong by over three thousand million pounds? It’s way beyond unbelievable.

These idiots have also purchased 6 twin engine police aircraft, a multi million pound hangar and training facility at Doncaster Airport and entered into a fixed price, use it or lose it, maintenance and refuelling contract with the airport. The CAA have told them that the aircraft are unsuitable and never will be suitable for police operations and they will not allow them into service. For the past two years they have been squandering eye watering amounts of money, and still do so today whilst the aircraft sit in the hangar and staff & pilots sit around with nothing to fly in. How did that happen? Who is being held to account? They had plenty of warning and advice, but ignored it.

And there are some who want to place even greater responsibility into the hands of these people by withdrawing from the EU. The evidence that we are not sufficiently competent to survive outside the EU is everywhere.
 
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I’m hearing that the new emergency service radio system is going to cost over three thousand million pounds more than originally estimated. What items had been overlooked which cost over three thousand million pounds? What level of incompetence do you need to get a cost estimate wrong by over three thousand million pounds? It’s way beyond unbelievable.
I suggest that one thing required is some sort of uninterruptible power supply for all 4G masts. Otherwise it will all go down when there is a power outage.

Also, be interesting to know how it will mesh in with 5G. Will they allow or ban Huawei equipment (in both 4g and future 5g upgrade?
 

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The whole Emergency Radio System has always been a mess and always will be. As a licensed radio operator myself I could recall many stories of systems failure like the encryption system that the Police used on their radios for example. If an officer using a radio wandered too far away from it's base station the constantly changing and updating encryption codes would fall out of sync and his equipment would become useless, requiring a RTB (return to base) service.
Then there's all the various emergency services that exist and the different frequencies and channels they use, Police, Fire, Ambulance none of them can communicate with each other. We can only hope any new system takes that on board.
 

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