Brexit, for once some facts.

[Danidl]

The sun will still rise the morning after Brexit.

There will be a few daft stories, some which might be entertaining, but nothing much will happen.

Other than a few Remain zealots looking rather stupid.

I think we will agree that it is very likely that the sun will rise on 30th. March. It is improbable that the powers of darkness are that effective.
It will remain to be seen who will be discommoded. But police on both sides of the channel, will have difficulty if the insurance certificates on goods, lorries, etc are not in order, and unless there are agreements in place, they will be. UK planes will be allowed to land on EU Territory, but won't have permission to take off again. Likewise with EU planes landing in UK Airports. The legal infrastructure has not been set up. So there must be a deal,even if that is a deal for a week, a month or longer, there must be as deal or else commerce between UK and EU stops dead,and only smuggling exists.
The good news is that we DO have a deal. Signed today between the only persons legally entitled to agree a deal.. the European Council and the PM of the UK. In other words a document signed by effectively 28 prime ministers. The deal has yet to be ratified.The 27 National Governments have accepted it, and now two parties still remain to ratify it.
1. The European Parliament
2. The UK Parliament.
The EU Parliament is very likely to vote yes.
The UK Parliament may very well vote No.
In that case, a (new) PM would have to come and publicly unsign it. But at the moment there is a deal.

 

[oldtom]

What is that?

It's a very short fairy story.

Tom

 

[oldtom]

when the ...... hits the fan.

I never noticed before but 'hits' is an anagram of the missing word. The things one learns, eh!

Tom

 

[oldgroaner]

The only plan B I want is a Betrayal of Brexit by saying Bo!!ocks to Brexit and the Bast**rds who Believed in it by promoting it, so remaining in the Blessed EU.
.

The B he is a busy soul
And has no time for Birth control
And that is why in days like these
there are so many
Sons of B's

 

[oldgroaner]

It's a very short fairy story.

Tom

Too Trucking Foo!

 

[oyster]

From a group called
#BackTheBrexitDeal

Will not back the brexit deal (never)
Never let you go, let me go
Never let me go, ooh
No, no, no, no, no, no, no

 

[oldgroaner]

There follows a short political broadcast on behalf of the DUP/ERG alliance, a song for Mrs May.
.......................All together now

This pretty much sums the situation up, so I make no apology for posting it again!

 

[Kudoscycles]

To do the job properly on April 1 this is the work required...
1. Upgrade all the computers to take the latest Sage or Quickbooks software
2. Against every product (we have 11,000) the HS tariff code,the size and weight must be attached ,also the tariff percentage.
3. All invoices must be capable of presenting the info and Sage will sum the tariff quantum.
4. The EU customer will be expected to settle the vat and import duty before taking delivery of the goods.....this is the bit that is of most concern,why should EU customers go through the hassle of buying from the U.K. when he can source parts locally,it’s just as easy to ship into Rotterdam as well as Felixstowe!!
For me it’s not so bad most of the work has been done to ship to New Zealand or Australia but an exporter who only ships to the EU will have real problems.
The likes of JRM and Raab don’t even know the distance ferries travel Dover to Calais,I don’t think they have a clue to the extra work that quitting our current systems is putting on businesses.
KudosDave

 

[oldtom]

Other than a few Remain zealots looking rather stupid

Those who have supported the 'Remain' cause will not look in the least stupid for they will have remained true to the greatest geopolitical initiative the world has ever seen; an initiative rooted in peace, with historic, international enemies forming new, common bonds, trading by mutual agreement and living in harmony for over half a century, something unknown previously in Europe.

On the other hand, those who voted, not for any economic reason, but purely out of hatred for those fellow human beings born beyond our shores, are going to both look and feel particularly stupid because it was they who failed to identify that they were being duped by a group of silver-tongued, lying charlatans with personal, vested interests.

Those are the people who are not getting what they want from this 'deal' agreed by the most incompetent PM in modern British history and the EU, which will go from strength to strength without the UK holding up progress.

Tom

 

[oldtom]

There is news today of grave concern over standards acceptable to a UK body but being found unacceptable elsewhere.

This does not bode well for the UK and for those people in need of the kind of medical devices referred to in the report. It follows that outside of the EU, the UK may be worse off in this regard but watch the EU introduce changes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46318445

Tom

 

[Woosh]

Tell me this.... when your Brexit dream is going down in flames, who you gonna call?

Jeremy.

 

[oldgroaner]

Jeremy.

Then May I suggest it would be wise to invest in one of these

He seems to be deaf to any voice other than his own

 

[oldgroaner]

There is news today of grave concern over standards acceptable to a UK body but being found unacceptable elsewhere.

This does not bode well for the UK and for those people in need of the kind of medical devices referred to in the report. It follows that outside of the EU, the UK may be worse off in this regard but watch the EU introduce changes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46318445

Tom

Worrying!

 

[Kudoscycles]

I thought May once said that NO DEAL IS BETTER THAN A BAD DEAL and everybody says that NO DEAL will be catastrophic so what adjective is used to describe May’s deal against NO DEAL....keep it clean.
We are going through time wasting motions to keep Brexiters happy,even though Brexiters as well as Leavers dislike this deal. We might as well start preparing for another vote now,except head banging Leavers most of the U.K. would welcome another vote and whatever the outcome we will have to go with it....ballot ‘Remain’or ‘No Deal Leave’.
KudosDave

 

[Woosh]

The DUP could consider backing a Norway-style deal for Brexit as a way to prevent Northern Ireland being treated differently to the rest of the UK.

it is one possible brexit plan that may get approved by the HoC,

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/25/dup-may-back-norway-style-brexit-deal-says-arene-foster

 

[oyster]

There is news today of grave concern over standards acceptable to a UK body but being found unacceptable elsewhere.

This does not bode well for the UK and for those people in need of the kind of medical devices referred to in the report. It follows that outside of the EU, the UK may be worse off in this regard but watch the EU introduce changes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46318445

Tom

Agreed this is a major issue.

The inability of, as an example from the story, the MHRA to say anything useful in public means there is absolutely no possibility of applying oversight.

One of the medicines I care about has some very odd reports. There are (now) three UK makes. Yet a majority of patients who have tried them and other makes prefer those from Germany, Greece, Turkey and Mexico.

As patients we cannot find out anything about conditions applied (though it appears that one UK make is subject to a special requirement that every single batch has to be approved by the MHRA before being released).

Somewhat crazy that the Apple iWatch is quite likely better tested and proved as a heart monitor than dedicated heart monitors or, as we have just read, pacemakers.

In that specific case, I'd like to know on what basis the patient gave consent. Because it most obviously was not after being properly informed. That makes the role of the surgeon (et al) open to question.

 

[Woosh]

We might as well start preparing for another vote now

The DUP's position on Norway style brexit would force half of the ERG to think twice before trying to depose TM.

 

[RobF]

the greatest geopolitical initiative the world has ever seen;

The saddest thing about that is you probably believe it.

The EU is no more than an over-blown treaty organisation with a vastly inflated sense of its own importance.

When the history of Europe comes to be written it will rate little more than a footnote.

 

[oldgroaner]

This is amusing
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Carole Cadwalladr‏Verified account @carolecadwalla



2) Federal agents arrested Nigel Farage's aide as he stepped off flight by Nigel Farage's side in Chicago. For money laundering, wire fraud, blackmail & more.

Halleluya,so now we know who owned that washing machine

 

[oldgroaner]

The saddest thing about that is you probably believe it.

The EU is no more than an over-blown treaty organisation with a vastly inflated sense of its own importance.

When the history of Europe comes to be written it will rate little more than a footnote.

Like America, China, India,and the USA?
So what do you call the United Kingdom? the description fits that rather better than the EU doesn't it?

When the history of Europe is written it will be the United States of Europe that writes it, with considerable relief that the long history of lethal wars between petty little nations that preceded it came to an end.

Only an idiot would want to go back to that situation and turn us into a version of Cuba this side of the Atlantic
Why are you afraid of the future and want to shut yourself off from it? if you are afraid of being pushed around inside the EU, hiding from it is simply described by one word............
Cowardice,and let's face it, along with fear and an unwillingness to share, that is what motivates Brexit

The UK is no more than an over-blown pound shop version of the EU with a vastly inflated sense of its own importance.