When was the Republic of Ireland occupied by Germany?
Or Finland?
Or Malta?
Or Portugal?
Or Sweden?
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Or Finland?
Or Malta?
Or Portugal?
Or Sweden?
They were probably all occupied by Germany in Tommie's fantasy existence, one where the DUP are magically a force for good instead of the anti-social bigots that they really are.
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Suggest those who think that the backstop will never be used should Google ‘Turkey Trap’ ‘Jeremy Hunt’
It’s got nothing to do with catching turkeys for Christmas.
Jeremy Hunt has pointed out that the open ended May backstop deal could lock us into negotiations for 30 years. Turkey has been negotiating with the EU since 1987 to try to achieve a free trade deal.
KudosDave
It’s got nothing to do with catching turkeys for Christmas.
Jeremy Hunt has pointed out that the open ended May backstop deal could lock us into negotiations for 30 years. Turkey has been negotiating with the EU since 1987 to try to achieve a free trade deal.
KudosDave
And he had no more idea of what he was talking about than you do, so what is your point? Why are you now Quoting "lefty losers"
Run out of allies already? what happened to the other half of the Panto Duo Mr Gove?
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A classic case of not reporting news impartially from the usual culprit that specialises in that the Daily Express
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Switzerland LOSES referendum to protect sovereignty opening nation up to MORE EU rules
SWITZERLAND yesterday lost a referendum to protect its sovereignty in a move critics fear will force the country to accept more EU rules.
the Real headline is
Pro EU Faction in Switzerland wins referendum to accept EU integration
SWITZERLAND yesterday won a referendum to discard irrelevant and restrictive sovereignty in a move to modernise with EU rules.
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Switzerland LOSES referendum to protect sovereignty opening nation up to MORE EU rules
SWITZERLAND yesterday lost a referendum to protect its sovereignty in a move critics fear will force the country to accept more EU rules.
the Real headline is
Pro EU Faction in Switzerland wins referendum to accept EU integration
SWITZERLAND yesterday won a referendum to discard irrelevant and restrictive sovereignty in a move to modernise with EU rules.
It is also debatable whether the anschluss of Austria constituted occupation or not.
From the Independent
Brexit: Theresa May's deal could leave UK £100bn poorer each year in first decade outside EU, analysis shows
Of course if you can runs some scams on currency fluctuation and have an offshore bank account the alternative looks like a bargain.
"As well as the Brexit deal, the NIESR also examined the “orderly” no-deal, favoured by Brexiteers, which would reduce GDP by 5.5 per cent, or £140bn a year.
looks very attractive, after all it's the Public not the likes of Jackass Grease Smug that will be footing the bill, and leave voters obviously will approve as "They knew what they were voting for"
Brexit: Theresa May's deal could leave UK £100bn poorer each year in first decade outside EU, analysis shows
Of course if you can runs some scams on currency fluctuation and have an offshore bank account the alternative looks like a bargain.
"As well as the Brexit deal, the NIESR also examined the “orderly” no-deal, favoured by Brexiteers, which would reduce GDP by 5.5 per cent, or £140bn a year.
looks very attractive, after all it's the Public not the likes of Jackass Grease Smug that will be footing the bill, and leave voters obviously will approve as "They knew what they were voting for"
Mmm, so if the UK is such a waste of space why does the EU make it so difficult for us to leave?
You'd think they'd snatch our hands off, be glad to see the back of us.
Don't tell me, it's altruism, they have our best interests at heart.
Yeah, right.
I love this image! It purports to be the box arrived at in the Noel Edmunds TV show but I see it as a 21st-century version of Pandora's box, which beautifully portrays the future for the British people if we continue towards the madness of 'Brexit'.
I think this is a good moment to reprise an image I posted some time ago as it has all come true:
…..and for the benefit of those uninformed, here is a real-world definition of what you voted for:
Tom
I think this is a good moment to reprise an image I posted some time ago as it has all come true:
…..and for the benefit of those uninformed, here is a real-world definition of what you voted for:
Tom
Never 'oyster'; it was, and remains, occupied by Great Britain and is ruled from Westminster most of the time as their appointed local agents are incapable of administering the region. Parallels can be drawn with pre-reformed S. Africa and with Palestine, apartheid still very much in evidence in the occupied part of Ireland.
Tom
Has someone told you that the EU has made it difficult for us to leave?
Can you explain that remark? we have spent two years trying to con them into a deal that suits us, we could have walked away on day one and they couldn't have stopped us could they?
Come on then explain why when that was a choice we could have made we didn't?
Is that really the way the leaver mind works? it's someone else's fault that we hadn't the guts to just leave?
How dense can you be not to realise WE are the ones making it difficult to leave the EU not them.
By the way you've got those two last sentences in the wrong order with the wrong meaning too, let me help
It must altruism, they obviously have our best interests at heart.
Otherwise You'd think they'd snatch our hands off, be glad to see the back of us.
How has the EU made it 'so difficult'? Is it not the case that the UK government wants to secede from the EU but wants to have a 'deal', for want of a better expression?
There is nothing at all to prevent the UK from simply walking away, terminating its direct debit and facing the consequences, whatever they may be. The negotiations come down to the UK demanding to be treated preferentially because it has an overblown sense of its own importance, while it is incumbent upon the EU to ensure that 27 other sovereign nation states are not treated less favourably than the UK.
It is within the gift of the UK government to rescind A50 now that the best deal they have managed to achieve fails to satisfy their desires. In ensuring that the EU remains a solid, functioning trading organisation for those states wishing to remain full members, I fail to understand how you can make a case for the EU being difficult about the UK's exit. The UK is not being expelled; it is entirely through the UK's choices that we have arrived at the point we are at today.
Tom…..beaten to the punch again by OG!
When you can snatch the pebble from my hand.......
Typical EU response, lots of words, very little meaning.
It is taking years to extricate ourselves from this garbage, which is a good enough reason in itself to leave.
Looks to me as if someone is making it difficult.
Then there's our borders, if the UK is such a dump how is it we are fighting a seemingly limitless number of people wanting to live here, either legally or illegally?
The UK, being such a dreadful place, should be like Ireland during the potato famine, de-population, people queuing to leave.
But instead the reverse is true.
Why is that?
I always thought you were quite a knowledgeable chap but clearly, your area of expertise is limited to bicycles.
I think you are just a hopeless case, I'm afraid.
Tom
TM versus JC on live TV, possibly on Sunday 9th December.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-accepts-theresa-mays-13645639
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-accepts-theresa-mays-13645639
It's good to see in the news today that the British spy non-spy, Matthew Hedges, has been pardoned by the UAE.
I feel better now about the possibility of returning to education as a mature student and studying for a PhD, researching a foreign country's security strategy for my thesis. Obviously, I have made a note to ensure that any country I pick is one that receives arms shipments from the UK as that is an essential bargaining chip it seems if the hist hits the fan when I visit.
The Foreign Secretary seemed incredibly surprised at the news but it must have been down to his intervention on Hedges' part that brought about his release…..surely?
Tom
I feel better now about the possibility of returning to education as a mature student and studying for a PhD, researching a foreign country's security strategy for my thesis. Obviously, I have made a note to ensure that any country I pick is one that receives arms shipments from the UK as that is an essential bargaining chip it seems if the hist hits the fan when I visit.
The Foreign Secretary seemed incredibly surprised at the news but it must have been down to his intervention on Hedges' part that brought about his release…..surely?
Tom
But it isn't is it? as usual you make untrue statements
I realise you don't like reading anything that contradicts your programming,
What garbage are you referring to? the only garbage I can see is that which the leave campaign has made of the negotiations, and the harm and stress this mass stupidity that Brexit really is has caused in our own population playing on fear and prejudice.
The there's our borders
the people who are coming here aren't coming because this is a wonderful place, they are fleeing from areas where we have helped start wars!
And now the ones we really need to come have started going home, putting the NHS in jeapordy through understaffing.
The UK is in fact so wonderful a place that we end up with headlines like this
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UN report blasts Britain's 'punitive, mean-spirited, and often callous' stance on poverty with dire warning over Brexit
Do you think you know better? this is how low the sort of thinking you subscribe to has brought our international reputation to.
And really you would be well advised to steer clear of any reference to this subject
"The UK, being such a dreadful place, should be like Ireland during the potato famine, de-population, people queuing to leave.
I suggest you follow this link and see how we failed the Irish
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/victorians/famine_01.shtml
And if you are wise never mention it again as a point scoring exercise
Rather than coming on here spouting nonsense ,you should look at your own conscience at the trouble you've been a party to causing with wrong headed ideas.
By the way I don't represent anyone but myself, can you say the same?
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