True, it was a government manifesto issue so the Commons can overrule the Lords.
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Brexit, for once some facts.
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So we pay for projects but they tell us we can't use them.
Come on mate. Have a bit of backbone. I'm happy to pay it but I want something back in return. Its a simple negotiating strategt.
We have been given the square root of f all. The EU are practically telling us leave without a deal.
This changes nothing. Anyone with a brain can see this isn't Brexit so if this does fail then the argument is still live.
Its terrible in so many ways.
None of your business is it really? so why bring it up?
Irrelevant to what I posted. The EU favouring us on the movement issue still puts them in a difficult situation with Hungary and some others.
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"Come on mate. Have a bit of backbone. I'm happy to pay it but I want something back in return. Its a simple negotiating strategy"
How do you negotiate with someone who was walked away and won't come back? we seem to spend all our times negotiating among ourselves and forget the EU has finished and gone home.
"We have been given the square root of f all. The EU are practically telling us leave without a deal."
We said this would happen and it has, so what's your problem? you knew what you voted for didn't you?
This is correct
"This changes nothing. Anyone with a brain can see this isn't Brexit so if this does fail then the argument is still live."
Only to the extent do we cancel Brexit or suffer?
Ooops!
Oh dear......... hope it wasn`t something i said
anyhow, do lighten up,
and here`s something to wile away your hours..
https://howmanydaystill.com/its/brexit-6
No it isn't negotiable, you are missing a vital point. When we signed with others to pay for a project to completion, that was its budget. If we are allowed to stop paying part way through, the project collapses, wasting everyone's money. Clearly one member cannot have that power, it's tantamount to a blackmail opportunity. We agreed to pay and must do so. Losing the benefit of any such project is our choice by leaving.
Agreed in the sense you put it, exactly as we have always told you leaving would be. It could never be and would never be any better.
It will only eventually get better when we sheepishly rejoin the EU as quietly as possible without rocking the boat, hoping no-one notices and takes the mickey.
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" Anyone with a brain can see this isn't Brexit so if this does fail then the argument is live."
Very true Fingers ..it's not BRexit as you understand it, Horray!!!.
But the other point .. no the argument as far as the EU is concerned is concluded.
Very true Fingers ..it's not BRexit as you understand it, Horray!!!.
But the other point .. no the argument as far as the EU is concerned is concluded.
Interesting to look up
Richard Elliot COOK
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/6YP-Ed7vjPHMkQNAGO9tc-jfS98/appointments
For someone who has held 11 appointments, and somehow a history of compulsory striking off, dissolving, etc. runs through.
I wonder where his assets now are?
I realise your brain may find this hard to understand but the reason the DUP got away with this is because the English law doesn't apply in Northern IrelandHaHaHa, our resident bell-end fails again....
DUP's pro-Brexit advertising money was 'permissible'
The Electoral Commission has told MPs that it is satisfied that a £435,000 donation to the DUP was permissible under UK law.
The commission's chief executive, Claire Bassett, and head of regulation, Louise Edwards, gave evidence to the Commons' Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee on Tuesday as part of the committee's inquiry into disinformation and fake news.
Ms Edwards told MPs that during the referendum period when the DUP received the controversial donation from the Scottish-based Constitutional Research Council the commission had received quarterly reports from the party about the donations they had received.
Questioned by SNP MP Brendan O'Hara about whether the Electoral Commission had done everything it could to check the money which went to the DUP was not of foreign origin and was permissible under UK law, Ms Bassett replied "we were satisfied that the donors were permissible".
Now don`t you look a silly old fool again?? !!
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And the electoral commission didn't say that did it?
It most definitely didn't say the donors were permissible , in fact it said we have not seen evidence beyond this etc.,
And of course there is this
"The mysterious Constitutional Research Council (CRC) was confirmed in February to have donated £435,000 to the DUP (Democratic Unionist Party), of which they routed £425,000 into pro-Brexit ads in London. This spending included a £282,000 advert reading “Take Back Control – Vote To Leave” in the Metro and almost £100,000 worth of campaign merchandise. The donation was made through Northern Ireland, which meant the source of donations was kept secret due to, now repealed, donor secrecy laws that were put in place during the Troubles. The source of these donations was set to be retroactively released, but Secretary of State for NI, James Brokenshire, has since decided against such a move.
Sorry you are the one making himself look an idiot, which is in fact to be expected.
And do give over trying to appear clever, you simply aren't
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Ooops what tommie? were you about to say something amusing?Ooops!
Oh dear......... hope it wasn`t something i said
anyhow, do lighten up,
and here`s something to wile away your hours..
https://howmanydaystill.com/its/brexit-6
Possibly, but that was not in the value sense I meant.
My meaning of course for anyone not understanding was that paying for EU membership gave its benefits all the time. But one has no breakdowns in almost all years of RAC and AA payments, making them relatively more expensive. The failing of all insurance.
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Oh dear it stops 20 years short doesn't it?Ooops!
Oh dear......... hope it wasn`t something i said
anyhow, do lighten up,
and here`s something to wile away your hours..
https://howmanydaystill.com/its/brexit-6
Who do you recommend that runs a Free breakdown Service?
I realise your brain may find this hard to understand but the reason the DUP got away with this is because the English law doesn't apply in Northern Ireland
And the electoral commission didn't say that did it?
It most definitely didn't say the donors were permissible , in fact it said we have not seen evidence beyond this etc.,
And of course there is this
"The mysterious Constitutional Research Council (CRC) was confirmed in February to have donated £435,000 to the DUP (Democratic Unionist Party), of which they routed £425,000 into pro-Brexit ads in London. This spending included a £282,000 advert reading “Take Back Control – Vote To Leave” in the Metro and almost £100,000 worth of campaign merchandise. The donation was made through Northern Ireland, which meant the source of donations was kept secret due to, now repealed, donor secrecy laws that were put in place during the Troubles. The source of these donations was set to be retroactively released, but Secretary of State for NI, James Brokenshire, has since decided against such a move.
Sorry you are the one making himself looking an idiot, which is in fact to be expected.
And do give over trying to appear clever, you simply aren't
In the long list of replies this has got to be your weakest one, panic has set in i see..
so, err.... pray tell how much was the fine, who was imprisoned, if anyone over this??!!
*I`ll wait*
Get an adult to read my last post and explain it to you, it means that if and when evidence emerges of who actually donated the money to the DUP THEN they will be under investigation, until then they have successfully covered their tracks hiding behind outdated legislation from the time of the troubles.In the long list of replies this has got to be your weakest one, panic has set in i see..
so, err.... pray tell how much was the fine, who was imprisoned, if anyone over this??!!
*I`ll wait*
Are you really happy that the political party you support is so corrupt it spends huge sums of dodgy money from lord knows where on a political campaign rather than spending it serving the people of Northern Ireland?
Weren't you the one who gloated about the money they conned out of Theresa to serve the people of the province?
Ask yourself why they spent the money on propaganda no one in Northern Ireland could possible see instead of on the people they represent?
Are you really as gullible as your posts indicate? They are mercenaries that anyone with money to launder can buy and sell, and you are so slow on the uptake that you applaud them making a fool of the people who elected them.
As to panic? why should I panic? everything is working out exactly as predicted two years ago, but people like you are unable to face the reality that you have been taken for suckers.
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Tommie why are you thanking me? do you think this is the end of this story?
Not by any means....
But I note that you don't care what the DUP gets up to in your name as to you the end justifies the means
The irony is that you aren't going to get the Brexit you want are you?
It's dead in the water
As to the future for the DUP, they are no longer more than a minor nuisance.
You said you'll wait... so will I
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