For an old boy you are gullible. Or maybe you're a bit mutton?
NOTHING IS AGREED TILL EVERYTHING IS AGREED.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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For an old boy you are gullible. Or maybe you're a bit mutton?
NOTHING IS AGREED TILL EVERYTHING IS AGREED.
Well i`d like to see the list.
And as the ROI is supposed to be a net contributor now when will the EU be giving you a free Health Service for example?
It was..... do try not to be sarcastic, it requires an active brain to do that well.
From Reuters in small words so you should understand
Britain agrees Brexit divorce deal with EU, May's opponents vow to thwart it
Amazing how you habitually attribute your own characteristics to anyone who proves you wrong, but then it happens so often you must be used to it by now.
No, their benefits are proportionally far more expensive than EU membership.
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It wouldn't make any difference who did it.
Who are you suggesting could?
Open access to the world's largest trading group as just one example. In Financial services alone in 2017 we earned £27 billions from the EU, while they only earned £4 billions from us in those services.
Do you really want to chuck away the £23 billions difference and all our EU trade in products?
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Wow.
You really believe that we have a deal that will be ratified?
You'll swallow anything. No wonder you believe what Tom says.
Sorry fingers ,but it is the only deal on offer. Very simply the UK side squandered a good year of the negociating time. Even if they had taken the stance you suggest,the result will still be deal or no deal..there would not be a substantially different outcome because the eu could not afford it... Not afford,in the sense of money but as discussed ,the current agreement is a balance between 28 countries and ANY cherry picking, could cause the entire structure to rock.. so on that grounds alone, the special UK was never a runner.
What is on offer is the second best of 3 options .. stay in , all rights, privileges,all responsibles. The current dea all 540 pages l ,or the no deal WTO .
HaHaHa, our resident bell-end fails again....
DUP's pro-Brexit advertising money was 'permissible'
The Electoral Commission has told MPs that it is satisfied that a £435,000 donation to the DUP was permissible under UK law.
The commission's chief executive, Claire Bassett, and head of regulation, Louise Edwards, gave evidence to the Commons' Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee on Tuesday as part of the committee's inquiry into disinformation and fake news.
Ms Edwards told MPs that during the referendum period when the DUP received the controversial donation from the Scottish-based Constitutional Research Council the commission had received quarterly reports from the party about the donations they had received.
Questioned by SNP MP Brendan O'Hara about whether the Electoral Commission had done everything it could to check the money which went to the DUP was not of foreign origin and was permissible under UK law, Ms Bassett replied "we were satisfied that the donors were permissible".
Now don`t you look a silly old fool again?? !!
Once again you show how little you understand on this issue. The EU negotiator would ignore such childish bluff, knowing how impossible it was and that we could never do that.
As I've already posted and you seem to have ignored, that breach of our agreed obligations would result in an immediate severe downgrading of our credit rating status, doing immense harm to any world trading hopes we had.
The world's trade is based on trust and the degree of trust is established by a country's credit rating. We've already suffered two lesser recent downgradings due to our continuing to live off borrowing rather than earnings.
Breaching our agreements with the EU by walking out would shock the political and trading world and bring immediate fierce reaction. The you'd really know what being punished meant.
That is why we didn't and would never have taken the stance you advocate, we know it would be suicidal
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We'll see.
If what you say is true it will be the first time ever for the EU.
Like you say. There is at least one oother option on the table.
That is why the EU side was very closed lipped until now. The deal is agreed by those empowered by their governments to negociate it. It is now up to the principals to either agree it or not.
Your Government, meaning the UK Parliament has two choices and two choices only .
Accept or Reject the offer. A simple majority in the UK Parliament (,I assume both houses). The same choice which is available to the E U 27,..but with this proviso. .. It does not have to be unanimous. If a qualified majority (no I am not going to explain it) ,agree then the EU side agrees,even if there are dissenters.
After this comes the beginning of the negociating on the future arrangements.,and another 2000pages of postings.
The whole global credit system is as corrupt as ****. Bung Poors and Moody a few quid and it will be fine.
The yanks do it all the time.
And you must understand. This 40 bn is not a legal requirement. May has admitted this. She says it's the 'right' and 'moral' thing to do.
Well I don't. I see it as leverage and a bit of security if they do play silly buggers.
I honestly believe Mays deal is the worst of both worlds so we have nothing to lose.
I think it highly likely it will be.
That's because I know it is the only deal on offer and cannot be renegotiated.
You should think yourself lucky, for the EU has gone further than it wanted to. As little as three months ago they were insisting we couldn't have any control over free movement with trading freedom, but now they've reluctantly conceded that.
That puts them in some difficulties since there are other members of countries that want to restrict freedom of movement so they will come knocking at the EU door.
This comes just as the EU is trying to insist that Hungary honours freedom of movement, showing how generous that EU concession to us was.
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The Lords have no binding vote over this.
Only the House has what is called a meaningfull vote.
And it could be burn baby burn!
The difference with Hungary is its a 'passing through' country.
If the EU wanted they could make their government give the migrants visas. The EU has already backed down with them. Hungary has what it wants.
That is untrue. We have signed to pay for previously agreed obligations such as the future EU pensions and the projects that we were involved with to their completion.
These agreements are legally binding and we must pay both to avoid the harm I described and keep our good name. That is why TM described paying as right and moral.
We have to agree to pay anyway to go on to stage three of the negotiations, our future trading arrangements.
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Also now that the UK wont be contributing any longer how much will poor Ireland have to divvy up every year to the EU Mafia cabal?
The EU aren't interested whether it is ratified or not, they have finished with this part of the process and moved on.
Are all leavers as slow on the uptake?